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#2021 Panzermann

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 1736 PM

* CDU MP Carsten Linnemann suggested this week that only kids who speak sufficient German to follow class should be admitted to elementary school.

 

 

 
Yes. No bavarians and saxonians in class.   ^_^

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#2022 BansheeOne

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 1409 PM

In a similar, but much longer vein the similar, but much more intellectually gifted Thomas Fischer goes off on the accusations of racism against FC Schalke 04 president Clemens Tönnis, who suggested that rather than spending 27 billion Euro on reducing global CO2 emmissions, we should use the same money to build 20 major power stations in Africa so that people there stop cutting trees and making babies after dark due to electrification. Unfortunately it's also pretty much untranslateable due to length and elaborate Germanisms. :D


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#2023 Ssnake

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 1553 PM

I have used the same argument but inversely applied, that in order to get the German fertility rate up we should have rolling blackouts after 8 p.m.

Am I racist now, too?


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#2024 Leo Niehorster

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Posted 18 August 2019 - 0405 AM

Just discovered this word: (63 letters)

Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz

 

literally: Cattle Marking and Beef Labeling Supervision Duties Delegation Law

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#2025 Markus Becker

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Posted 18 August 2019 - 1004 AM

Is that real or a Geflügelte Jahresendfigur?

During the CW the west German press made up absurd phrases and attributed them to Commie East Germany. Like winged end of year figurine(Xmas angel).
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#2026 Leo Niehorster

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Posted 18 August 2019 - 1016 AM

See Wiki:

https://en.wikipedia...rtragungsgesetz

 

And there is another one at the bottom of that article. :D

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    Grundstücksverkehrsgenehmigungszuständigkeitsübertragungsverordnung


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Posted 20 August 2019 - 1205 PM

An Italian-designed carnival ride named "Eagle Flight" in the small "Tatzmania" pleasure park in the Black Forest area is currently under reconstruction after it got some attention on Reddit ...

 

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Posted 22 August 2019 - 0552 AM

See Wiki:

https://en.wikipedia...rtragungsgesetz

 

And there is another one at the bottom of that article. :D

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    Grundstücksverkehrsgenehmigungszuständigkeitsübertragungsverordnung

How in the world do you say this much less read it?!


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Posted 22 August 2019 - 0610 AM

With practice.
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Posted 22 August 2019 - 0804 AM

It's not difficult, really, once that you get the hang of it. The concatenation of nouns is like the concatenation of genitive flexed nouns in English, you just have to recognize the individual bits.

 

I'd translate it as Real Estate Trading Permission Responsibility Assignment Regulation, which, actually, is "Because, Germany" worthy in its own as it's a specific post-reunification/post-socialism thing where you actually need a permission to sell real estate in Eastern Germany unless the piece of land was under unbroken ownership before 1933 until after 1990. Basically, the permission will be granted after the assigned authority (which it is is the subject of this regulation) confirms that the ownership of the real estate is not under dispute, which it may be after the series of (now) unlawful disappropriations, be it by the Nazis against Jews, or by the Communists against anyone they didn't like.


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Posted 22 August 2019 - 1208 PM

I guess it down to practice,  I remember reading the Greek inscription on the Rosetta stone at the British museum and it was slow reading being all capital letters and with no spaces but it was doable.

 

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Posted 22 August 2019 - 1408 PM

Yes, there are a number of characteristic word ending letter combinations that signify the end of one nound (and the beginning of the next), case in point:

 

Grundstücks verkehrs genehmigungs zuständigkeits übertragungs verordnung


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#2033 Martin M

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Posted 22 August 2019 - 1514 PM

 

See Wiki:

https://en.wikipedia...rtragungsgesetz

 

And there is another one at the bottom of that article. :D

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    Grundstücksverkehrsgenehmigungszuständigkeitsübertragungsverordnung

How in the world do you say this much less read it?!

 

 

 

It´s rather easy actually with the prerequsite of learning the German alphabet, which is the first to learning a language anyway.

 

The very long ones (as above)  to make an impression (whatever kind) on the internet are rare and if they exist at all they belong to a very specific law or government agency terminology. They are not used daily.  (The young people either speak Turk speak or have an advanced knowlelde of English, and nowadays pride in  using rather uncommon english words - and even correctly. Internet does it, I suppose. And most students with advanced education have had the privilage of being in UK, Australia, USA, Canada for long periods.)

 

The shorter ones are very practical as you can invent words as you speak - and they will be understood.


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#2034 Martin M

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Posted 22 August 2019 - 1518 PM

Yes, there are a number of characteristic word ending letter combinations that signify the end of one nound (and the beginning of the next), case in point:

 

Grundstücks verkehrs genehmigungs zuständigkeits übertragungs verordnung

 

 

It seems to be the  "s" actually. 

 

Grundstücks verkehrs genehmigungs zuständigkeits übertragungs verordnung.

Grundstücks verkehrs genehmigungs zuständigkeits übertragungs verordnung s anhörung.

Grundstücks verkehrs genehmigungs zuständigkeits übertragungs verordnung s anhörung s kammer.


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Posted 22 August 2019 - 1630 PM

Toss up between this thread or free speech.  https://www.dw.com/e...tate/a-50132167

 


Chechen refugee in Germany fined after sharing DW article on Islamic State

A court in Augsburg has fined a refugee from the Chechen Republic after he shared a DW article on his Facebook page. According to the ruling, he propagated the insignia of the Islamic State group.


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Posted 22 August 2019 - 1631 PM

 

Yes, there are a number of characteristic word ending letter combinations that signify the end of one nound (and the beginning of the next), case in point:

 

Grundstücks verkehrs genehmigungs zuständigkeits übertragungs verordnung

 

It seems to be the  "s" actually. 

 

Yeah, but not always. They are similar to the English's genitive-s (insofar as they are both "s" and genitive, actually, less the apostroph). But the noun endings from which the noun is formed are a number oc characteristic letter combinations. An individual letter can't be easily recognized as the limiter between two words in a compound noun. "Stallbursche" for example has an s in the middle, but it's not a concatenation of "Stallbur" and "che".


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Posted 24 August 2019 - 0733 AM

Klein in fact reiterated that 90 percent of anti-Semitic incidents are by right-wingers; though I keep suspecting those are better reported, in part because it is more rewarding with a view to public reaction due to the historic background. As far as Muslim anti-Semitism, he said it's less a problem of recent arrivals rather than those who have long lived here, but keep getting their information from Arab etc. media.

 

The 2019 issue of the annual "Berlin Monitor" surveying popular attitudes in the city has a focus on anti-Semitism, also comparing some of its findings for Berlin with a recent national study by the SPD-affiliated Friedrich Ebert Foundation (full version). People were asked to answer seven questions with five options ranging from 1 - "completely reject" to 5 - "fully agree". Options 1 and 2 were considered a rejection of anti-Semitism, 3 and 4 an indication of latent, and 5 of manifest agreement. Three questions each covered traditional and Israel-related anti-Semitism, plus one specifically addressing secondary anti-Semitism related to rejection of German guilt over the Holocaust.

 

Overall the findings were that despite more frequent media coverage of anti-Semitic incidents in Berlin, the sentiment is actually less prevalent in the city than on the national average. OTOH, Germans with no immigration background were least likely to exhibit anti-Semitic comvictions, Germans with such a background more so, and non-Germans most so - except for the question addressing the German guilt complex, which is unsurprising. Also in line with public perceptions, right-wingers and Muslims were found most succeptible - the latter particularly to Israel-related secondary anti-Semitism, which is generally much more readily expressed than the traditional one throughout all groups. Except by Catholics, apparently.

 

manifest / latent anti-Semitism (percent)

 

Traditional

 

- "Jews just have something special and peculiar about them and don't really fit with us."

 

National: 6 / 11

 

Berlin: 3 / 7

 

- no German citizenship: 3 / 12

- German with immigration background: 2 / 5

- German without immigration background: 0 / 6

 

 

- "Jews work with evil tricks more than other people to get what they want."

 

National: 7 / 7

 

Berlin: 4 / 6

 

- no German citizenship: 5 / 10

- German with immigration background: 4 / 6

- German without immigration background: 3 / 5

 

 

- "The influence of Jews is still too great today."

 

National: 7 / 13

 

Berlin: 6 / 10

 

- no German citizenship: 15 / 19

- German with immigration background: 6 / 12

- German without immigration background: 4 / 7

 

 

Secondary/Israel-related

 

- "Jews are responsible for most wars and conflicts in the world."

 

Berlin:

 

- no German citizenship: 5 / 16

- German with immigration background: 3 / 4

- German without immigration background: 1 / 6

 

By political self-description (manifest only):

 

- left: 1.1

- center-left: 1.5

- center-right: 2.8

- right: 10.1

 

 

- "The founding of Israel was a bad idea."

 

Berlin:

 

- no German citizenship: 23 / 22

- German with immigration background: 20 / 22

- German without immigration background: 9 / 19

 

By political self-description (manifest only):

 

- left: 10.4

- center-left: 10.2

- center-right: 17.0

- right: 20.6

 

 

- "Israel's policy in Palestine is just as bad as the Nazis' policy in World War II."

 

Berlin:

 

- no German citizenship: 28 / 27

- German with immigration background: 21 / 21

- German without immigration background: 13 / 22

 

By political self-description (manifest only):

 

- left: 14.7

- center-left: 13.5

- center-right: 24.2

- right: 21.9

 

 

Secondary/rejection of German guilt

 

- "Reparation demands to Germany often don't really benefit the victims but a Holocaust industry of clever lawyers."

 

Berlin:

 

- no German citizenship: 9 / 24

- German with immigration background: 8 / 21

- German without immigration background: 15 / 21

 

By political self-description (manifest only):

 

- left: 8.4

- center-left: 9.8

- center-right: 26.0

- right: 29.7

 

Note on the last: I actually thought for a while about how I would answer that one given the squishy wording of "often" on one hand, and actual cases of compensation money abuse, the whole "there's no business like Shoah business" thing attributed to former Israeli foreign minister Abba Eban etc. on the other; I could fully reject (1) all other items without thought. Eventually I settled on a 2 - "mostly reject" rather than a 3 - "partially reject, partially agree", thinking that would still group me in the "latent anti-Semitism" field before I read that this started at 3. Boy, am I glad. :D

 

Traditional anti-Semitism overall (Berlin, manifest / latent, in percent)

 

By age

 

- 61 and up: 3 / 7

- 31-61: 2 / 5

- 16-30: 0 / 5

 

 

By education

 

- no HS qualification for uni: 3 / 8

- at least HS qualification for uni: 1 / 3

 

 

By sex

 

- women: 2 / 4

- men: 2 / 7

 

 

By political self-description (manifest only)

 

- left: 0.3

- center-left: 1.6

- center-right: 2.8

- right: 5.7

 

 

By party affiliation

 

- AfD: 8.3 / 13.9

- CDU: 3.0 / 6.8

- SPD: 1.2 / 7.6

- Left: 0.8 / 2.1

- FDP: 0.0 / 2.8

- Greens: 0.3 / 0.6

 

- undecided: 1.8 / 6.1

- spoil ballot: 3.6 / 7.1

- non-voter: 0.0 / 8.5


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Posted 05 September 2019 - 1148 AM

Annual fear survey by R+V Insurance shows Germans in 2019 are less afraid of migrants, terrorists, Trump. :D

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Fear of political extremism and terrorism since 1992:

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Development of average fear by men and women, and by West and East Germans:

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https://www.ruv.de/p...e-der-deutschen
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Posted 06 September 2019 - 1257 PM

Gut feeling -  kinda looks like mirror of Tagesschau News.   People respond the way they are fed


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Posted 09 September 2019 - 1055 AM

Proof positive that every party has its kneejerkers demanding ideologically convenient limitations on something whenever a car plows into a crowd. There was a rather terrible accident in downtown Berlin last Thursday; according to eyewitnesses, a Porsche SUV occupied by the 42-year-old driver, a woman and a six-year-old kid pulled past a line of cars waiting at a red light on the left, hit the opposite pavement, took down a traffic light post and several bollards, broke through a construction site fence and ended up pointing the other way with all three occupants severely injured. On the way, it killed four, including a three-year-old boy and his grandmother, while the mother and a sibling remained completely untouched. Two other pedestrians were also injured.

There are allegedly indications that the driver suffered an epileptic attack or similar at the wheel. Of course before any facts were confirmed, Green Berlin Central district mayor Stephan von Dassel said that such "tank-like" SUVs didn't belong into cities, because not only were they "climate killers", but any driving mistake put the lives of innocents in danger. The deputy chairman of the Green Bundestag group Oliver Krischer demanded a cap on big SUVs in inner cities. In fairness, their co-partisan Regine Günther, Berlin's senator of transport, suggested that there should be analysis of the accident before consequences when asked. I think though that her party colleagues would make a great team with the types whose first reaction to any such incident is demanding a stop to immigration, even if the driver turns out to be as German as it gets.
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