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#2261 bojan

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 1719 PM

Not arguing about what type of gun it was, but BK-5M 100mm and BK-2 85mm HEAT also had same type of the folding fins.


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Posted 20 September 2019 - 0648 AM

Allis-Chalmers M7

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#2263 Chris Werb

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 0732 AM

One of my favourites:

 

http://www.tanks-enc...e-90mm-cati-90/


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#2264 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 0741 AM

 

 

love it. Any pentration data available after all these years from that 183 mm gun ?

I don't think you can get a sensible number, as 'penetration' means breaking the armor, which will depend on the distance to welds etc.

Apparently testing against tank targets produced 2/2 effective kills (one turret torn off; one mantlet shattered and turret made inoperable).

Edit - here we go:

'The 183mm was tested in live fire trials against a Centurion and a Conqueror. In 2 shots, the 183 blew the turret clean off the Centurion, and split the mantlet of the Conqueror in half.'

http://www.tanks-enc...heavy-gun-tank/

 

Sounds like a sledgehammer compared to an icepick.

 

Im told the director of the RAC, when informed about the development of this weapon, said 'And you field that over my dead body'. :D


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#2265 Chris Werb

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 0757 AM

Stuart, can you recommend any good books about post-war British AFV or B vehicle development?


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#2266 KV7

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 1952 PM

 

 

 

love it. Any pentration data available after all these years from that 183 mm gun ?

I don't think you can get a sensible number, as 'penetration' means breaking the armor, which will depend on the distance to welds etc.

Apparently testing against tank targets produced 2/2 effective kills (one turret torn off; one mantlet shattered and turret made inoperable).

Edit - here we go:

'The 183mm was tested in live fire trials against a Centurion and a Conqueror. In 2 shots, the 183 blew the turret clean off the Centurion, and split the mantlet of the Conqueror in half.'

http://www.tanks-enc...heavy-gun-tank/

 

Sounds like a sledgehammer compared to an icepick.

 

Im told the director of the RAC, when informed about the development of this weapon, said 'And you field that over my dead body'. :D

 

I recently saw an estimate of 300mm penetration, presumably quite independent of angle of incidence. But if so it is a kludge as the mechanism of damage is not 'penetration'.


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#2267 KV7

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Posted 23 September 2019 - 1725 PM

What is this armoured car, from the 1949 founding of the PRC parade ?

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#2268 bojan

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Posted 23 September 2019 - 1911 PM

Improvised on the truck chassis.


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#2269 Chris Werb

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Posted 26 September 2019 - 1602 PM

Apparently also 1949, Shanghai

 

https://www.flickr.c...card/4562612711


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#2270 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 27 September 2019 - 0140 AM

Stuart, can you recommend any good books about post-war British AFV or B vehicle development?

 

Not really, nothing that compares to Fletchers broad strokes tomes.

 

There is this, but you might have a job getting hold of it now.

https://www.amazon.c...gateway&sr=8-14


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