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#2121 JasonJ

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Posted 17 August 2019 - 2256 PM

The short range missiles don't particularly concern the US and don't move the needle in US politics. 

 

That could in fact be a feature, not a bug, particularly when their southern brethren are embroiled in a war of policies with Japan and Japanese. Such missile launches could be interpreted as solidarity between Koreans in various ways. 

 

Its a really complex situation. The ambiguity creates arrows that point in all sorts of directions. Standard Japanese TV media put some emphasize on the counter view that after Moon's sharp rhetoric against Japan such as things like "economic invasion" "will not lose to Japan a second time" afterwards there was his "willing to extend a happy hand". What has also been broadcasted is that there were demonstrations against the Moon administration as well, and showing some interviews with South Koreans on the ground saying things like that they don't participated in the "boycott Japan but feel nervous to by anything Japanese", or "Japan has been a nice country, how could a president say things like that", and so on. Right wing media of course spend more time on the anti-Japanese stuff. Some of the demonstrations against the Moon administration had a number of American flags along with the Korean flags. These likely made with the ROK conservative wing which likely would be in full support of the US-ROK joint-training and are generally more hard line in approach towards DPRK. I could certainly imagine Moon himself not liking the US-ROK joint-training and only allowing it for other pressure reasons such as perhaps political because over the last year or so, he did lose some approval rating points because of his soft approach to DPRK, dipping below 50% at around May. 50% is still relatively good for other leaders in other countries but considering that Moon became president with something like an 85+ approval rating, dipping below 50% was a losing trend. But soft approach to DPRK wasn't the only point that cost him some approval points. The other was jobs. Under his economic programs, senior citizens job rates increased, but the younger graduate age bracket of 18-29 years of age still has a very high unemployment rate. 1,000s of young South Koreans have even gone to Japan looking for work (which is one of several points that I think some Japanese need to be careful about not getting too angry in their response to ROK rhetoric with the history and all since getting some young skilled South Korean workers is a benefit to Japan). So the unemployment with the young age has also resulting in demonstrations again Moon. One other pressure point probably coming in from another angle was Moon's failure to stick with a campaign pledge to raise the minimum wage a certain amount, falling around halfway short if I'm not mistaken. All in the meantime, South Korea's fertility rate has falling below 1.0 it seems, makes Japan's 1.42 or whatever it is look really good.. While Moon's approval rating did pick up a little after his anti-Japan rhetoric following Japan's decision to reduce ROK from the white list of countries with easy free trade, climbing back up a little above 50%. However part of his response to Japan's response was things like removing barriers to overwork hours for research companies with the aim of developing the tech to reduce dependency on Japanese tech. This whole mess they put themselves into is deriving from the liberal ROK wing's recent idea that the 1965 money aid from Japan for the forced labour is no longer sufficient. They also doubled down on the comfort women stuff again recently. But this noisy side makes up around half the population from my observation. A quarter is general neutral don't care and play along with the majority. The last quarter actually has no problem with Japan but keep their thoughts on the whole matter in the closet to keep themselves safe from the mob. Things are not so simple as you describe and knowing about these specifics makes a difference in having a better approach.


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Posted 18 August 2019 - 1114 AM

For better or worse, the optics of thousands of South Koreans marching on the Japanese Embassy in Seoul while North Koreans fire short range missiles into the sea are not easily mistaken for appeals to the feelings of Japan and Japanese. Neither does the rich vein of wartime resentment the Koreans appear to have tapped into appear to be subsiding anytime soon.


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Posted Yesterday, 09:48 AM

At any rate, the K-pop still finds a way. Another new girl group, this one called IZ*ONE (wiki linked), has 12 members, 9 are South Korean and 3 are Japanese, formed in late 2018, so not even active for a year yet. Planned to be active until 2021. Music sounds generic to me but whatever, most Holy Wood movies are generic too and they makes loads of millions of USD. Just watched the every Monday night Japanese talk show "Shabekuri 007" (wiki linked) that featured the girl group. Here is a stream of the episode. The IZ*ONE portion goes from 3:34:58 to the end at 3:59:58 (although the live animation that comes beforehand was pretty neat).

 

Since it is a stream of an entire episode on Youtube, it might go down soon.

 

So some quick screenshots of the episode :ph34r:

 

Excitement upon stage entrance

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Eight more images in the spoiler

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Edited by JasonJ, Yesterday, 10:05 AM.

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Posted Yesterday, 02:27 PM

A friend forwarded me a Los Angeles Times article over the weekend that both contrasts with and complements the missile diplomacy of the North in various ways.

 

The fear is not just the concept of reparations for the wartime use of Korean slave labor in particular, it is extrapolation of the concept to all of the wartime forced and slave labor in general, unfortunately.

 

https://www.latimes....historic-wrongs


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