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#21 shep854

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 1718 PM

Yeah, so many really AWESOME ideas from that era that just didn't pan out...

That was also the Golden Age of science fiction. ;)


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Posted 04 September 2017 - 2201 PM

Russian road mobile nuke 

 

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 0138 AM

Oh, at least this one and its ilk have led to some results: https://en.wikipedia...r_power_station



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Posted 05 September 2017 - 0239 AM

 

And of course, the NB-36:

300px-NB-36H_with_B-50%2C_1955_-_DF-SC-8

https://en.wikipedia.../Convair_NB-36H

Every time I am reminded of that project and similar ones, one part of me is sad this direction has not been pursued further and found its way into civilian aviation. Imagine REAL big liners that only need refueling once a year or so and can fly distances and routes unimaginable with today's conventional tech.

Then another part of me remembers the terrorist threat specifically to airliners... Nah, it's just as right it hasn't become standard. As of now, at least.

 

 

Irradiating the passengers on the plane next to you when parked on the tarmac could also be seen as a bit of a problem.
 



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Posted 05 September 2017 - 0323 AM

Russian road mobile nuke 

 

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Reminds me of this movie. :D



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Posted 05 September 2017 - 1137 AM

 

 

And of course, the NB-36:

300px-NB-36H_with_B-50%2C_1955_-_DF-SC-8

https://en.wikipedia.../Convair_NB-36H

Every time I am reminded of that project and similar ones, one part of me is sad this direction has not been pursued further and found its way into civilian aviation. Imagine REAL big liners that only need refueling once a year or so and can fly distances and routes unimaginable with today's conventional tech.

Then another part of me remembers the terrorist threat specifically to airliners... Nah, it's just as right it hasn't become standard. As of now, at least.

 

 

Irradiating the passengers on the plane next to you when parked on the tarmac could also be seen as a bit of a problem.
 

 

There were AFAIK projects with closed-cycle reactors, so that problem would be nothing unsurmountable in the long term.



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Posted 05 September 2017 - 1245 PM

 

Russian road mobile nuke 

 

7X27nZ6.jpg

 

yFNOC75.jpg

 

Reminds me of this movie. :D

 

A bit of the '70s I missed--and I don't miss it... :blink:



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Posted 05 September 2017 - 1309 PM

:D



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Posted 06 September 2017 - 0343 AM

There were AFAIK projects with closed-cycle reactors, so that problem would be nothing unsurmountable in the long term.

 

 

Not exactly. One of the problems with it was that there was only enough of a weight budget to put shielding between the reactor and the crew. It was basically unshielded in any other direction.



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Posted 08 September 2017 - 1140 AM

I recall a study from the US on recovering the economy after a nuclear exchange. One of the comments made was that the medium term deaths from radiation could be compensated for by not rebuilding the tobacco industry.
You heard it here first - there has been no nuclear war because of Big Tobacco.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 1227 PM

I recall a study from the US on recovering the economy after a nuclear exchange. One of the comments made was that the medium term deaths from radiation could be compensated for by not rebuilding the tobacco industry.
You heard it here first - there has been no nuclear war because of Big Tobacco.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 1313 PM

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 1535 PM

Thoughts on nuking hurricanes:

http://atomic-skies....hurricanes.html

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Figure 1: Volumes of Air Removed from Eye By Various Yields



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Posted 08 September 2017 - 1613 PM

I admit thats all I have on Long Shot, im more familiar with project orion, for its self evident coolness. :)
 
Bear in mind some of the Soviet recce satellites (I think RORSAT's but I cant swear to it) apparently were nuclear propulsion, powered by Plutonium if I recall correctly. Caused a bit of a brown trousers moment when one deorbited over Canada if I remember rightly. I think they had to redesign them with a jettisonable core that could put them in high earth orbit where they wouldn't cause an issue in the event of a failure.


They derived their electricity from a nuclear reactor but not propulsion. The reactor separated from the satellite to a higher parking orbit (where I assume most of them still are) and that was part of the original design, however at least two failed to boost and then de-orbitted with the rest of the satellite, including the one in Canada you mention.

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 0834 AM

 

 

And of course, the NB-36:

300px-NB-36H_with_B-50%2C_1955_-_DF-SC-8

https://en.wikipedia.../Convair_NB-36H

Every time I am reminded of that project and similar ones, one part of me is sad this direction has not been pursued further and found its way into civilian aviation. Imagine REAL big liners that only need refueling once a year or so and can fly distances and routes unimaginable with today's conventional tech.

Then another part of me remembers the terrorist threat specifically to airliners... Nah, it's just as right it hasn't become standard. As of now, at least.

 

 

Irradiating the passengers on the plane next to you when parked on the tarmac could also be seen as a bit of a problem.
 

 

Hey, you buys yer ticket, you takes yer chances. 



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Posted 10 September 2017 - 0017 AM

Thoughts on nuking hurricanes:

http://atomic-skies....hurricanes.html

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Figure 1: Volumes of Air Removed from Eye By Various Yields

 

I know this will be an anathema to most Americans, but there are problems in life that can't be solved with nuclear weapons.



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Posted 10 September 2017 - 0153 AM

Though in fairness, Nuclear Hurricane would be an awesome name for a Heavy Metal Group.



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Posted 10 September 2017 - 1046 AM

 

Thoughts on nuking hurricanes:

http://atomic-skies....hurricanes.html

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Figure 1: Volumes of Air Removed from Eye By Various Yields

 

I know this will be an anathema to most Americans, but there are problems in life that can't be solved with nuclear weapons.

 

I think we're all pretty much on the same page, given we've only used nukes twice to solve a problem. ;)







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