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#121 sunday

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 0216 AM

Most of the Sea battles at Guadalcanal were at night. Battleships were an important part of the battles and the bombardment of Henderson field. At night, the carriers were useless and were withdrawn from the area.

Over the horizon gunnery probably wasnt practical, spotters or not, because the accuracy probably wasnt very good at this range. At the much shorter ranges of the night battles the Yamato and Musashi guns would have been deadly.

 

There is a bit written about the fuzes on AP shells used by the IJN - delays too long, optimized for subaquatic hits, that saved some CVEs from sinking off Samar, for instance.


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#122 DougRichards

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 0458 AM

 

Most of the Sea battles at Guadalcanal were at night. Battleships were an important part of the battles and the bombardment of Henderson field. At night, the carriers were useless and were withdrawn from the area.

Over the horizon gunnery probably wasnt practical, spotters or not, because the accuracy probably wasnt very good at this range. At the much shorter ranges of the night battles the Yamato and Musashi guns would have been deadly.

 

There is a bit written about the fuzes on AP shells used by the IJN - delays too long, optimized for subaquatic hits, that saved some CVEs from sinking off Samar, for instance.

 

 

CVEs did not in general have very much armour, if any.

 

If the concept of all or nothing armour in ships is to be accepted: that is where a ship has enough armour for protection in the vital areas, and no actual armour elsewhere, the idea that armour would stop incoming projectiles, whilst everywhere else was too thin to trigger a fuze, and the projectile would go through without detonation. 


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Posted 18 December 2018 - 0947 AM

I think at a certain level ships simply weren't armored for cost reasons. No one didn't armor a CVE because they thought they would engage battleship calibre rounds and they'd just pass through: they didn't armor them because they were massed produced ships not designed with direct engagement in mind. Ditto most DEs. Even Fletcher class ships designed with direct engagement in mind were expected to use torpedoes against surface ships and not get into slug outs, though in practice around the canal, they did go toe to toe and generally acquitted themselves well given the circumstances (being routinely massively outgunned).
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Posted 18 December 2018 - 1031 AM

On a related note, the encounter off Samar provided the first conclusive proof of Yamato guns being 18-inchers. Shells made quite round holes in the CVE hulls.


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Posted 18 August 2019 - 0132 AM

Another series of colorized pics of German ships of the two world wars:

 

http://blog.livedoor...es/1433792.html


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Posted 18 August 2019 - 0316 AM

Nice, thanks. If you left click on the photo, one can see enlarge photo.


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Posted 18 August 2019 - 1143 AM

That link appeared in Warship International Vol LVI, No 2 (June 2019)

 

It caught my attention because again it showed IJN warships at that blog:

 

The link is false though as it does not connect to the pic shown in the WI issue, scanned below.

 

Jason, if you are reading this, perhaps you can explore the blog and show us where the IJN files are?

 

JCfLzg.jpg


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Posted 18 August 2019 - 1252 PM

Screensaver quality and worthy of the title of this thread.


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Posted 18 August 2019 - 1354 PM

Great pics. Interesting how open the decks of the WWI ships seem without the need for scads of AAA guns.


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Posted 18 August 2019 - 1832 PM

Ken, there is a small drop down menu on the left side of the webpage called カテゴリを選択 in which within it are many options that the pictures are sorted into. Although after some exploring through the various manus, it was difficult to find your picture, for example, its not in the "IJN Battleship (13)" or the "IJN (161)" option. But I found your picture with the search function. Looks lime the colorization process was different then the one used in yoir picture but looks like both are from the same original picture.
http://blog.livedoor...es/1368197.html

Here are some of the other options in the drop down menu.
IJN
http://blog.livedoor.../cat_45319.html

Navy by Country (18)
http://blog.livedoor.../cat_20857.html

...within that option are 18 countries. Here is the US Navy and Royal Navy.
http://blog.livedoor...es/1252906.html
http://blog.livedoor...es/1415279.html

There are many pictures not in the national or ship class based options such as the categories by date such as this "WW2 1944-1945" option.
http://blog.livedoor.../cat_17092.html

And lastly, the blog is not only navy stuff but has air and ground such as this "AFV" option
http://blog.livedoor.../cat_46016.html
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Posted 18 August 2019 - 2033 PM

Brilliant! Many tanks, Jason.

 

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Posted 18 August 2019 - 2222 PM

Yep yep!
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Posted 18 August 2019 - 2311 PM

Impressive photos, particularly those of a number of Japanese predreadnoughts, which I have not seen before.


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