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#61 WRW

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Posted 30 August 2019 - 0620 AM

 

Related questions sort of - how optimal is the MBT 120 mm for the various types of combat the IDF can anticipate


Right now, the 120mm is great. Not only for the IDF but entirety of NATO.
And I do want to remind that Israel and NATO have very close considerations for this question.

If new T-90M and T-14 are likely to appear in eastern Europe, then T-90M are also highly likely to appear in the middle east.
The T-14 also has a fairly high chance of making an appearance in the middle east once it hits critical numbers in Europe.

That's why Israel may cooperate with the Franco-German EMBT project and the US's NGCV project, in efforts to determine the next gun.

 

against tank I cannot imagine a problem but for urban renewal ... how many building with crappy walls will a round go through


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Posted 13 September 2019 - 1238 PM

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=0qpZ9pmZJJ0

An Elbit UK representative says Elbit will take part in the UK's bid for a new howitzer.

It's worth reminding that Elbit offers its ATMOS in two main variants (and more sub-variants) - open cabin, and turreted.
The latter, they previously said, can be integrated on any user-provided platform and is platform-agnostic.

Elbit also has a working prototype of a turreted system for quite a while, but in a rather unusual step has refrained from showing it. It has only shown so far a nearly completely stripped down system, which raises doubts on its policy of showcasing developments, especially as the turret is marketable.
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#63 Kenneth P. Katz

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Posted 15 September 2019 - 2208 PM

What is the Merkava 4 Barak?

 

 

Some news:

  1. 188th brigade has been selected to receive the new Merkava 4 Barack MBTs, starting 2021.
  2. The 401st brigade is currently receiving new Merkava 4M tanks with an unspecified improved FCS.
  3. The 847th brigade completed the transition of one battalion and is in the process of transitioning the remaining 2 battalions to the Merkava 4 (without Trophy).
  4. The 434th brigade has received new BMS for all its tanks.
  5. Development of the Merkava 4 Barack is said to be in full swing.

 


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#64 Mighty_Zuk

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 0552 AM

The Mark 4 Barak is a mid-life upgrade for the Merkava. Think about Challenger 2's LEP but for the Merkava.

It's a thorough upgrade that will introduce a new generation of APS, an upgraded FCS, and a new AR helmet system (IronVision), among other things.
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Posted 17 September 2019 - 1515 PM

It has come to my understanding that the IDF has 11-15 billion dollar acquisition programs (over 5 years) on hold that are pending election results, including the howitzer program and other AFVs.

Among the programs cited for the ground forces are Merkava tanks and their development, higher volumes of advanced APCs and IFVs (Namer and Eitan), and the continuation of the howitzer program.

This is bad news folks, but I'm optimistic. There is no indication at the moment of any disruption in production for current AFVs.
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Posted 20 September 2019 - 1137 AM

Some news folks:

According to renewed Elbit Systems' brochures, IMI, now known as Elbit Systems Land, has produced a new 4th gen 105mm APFSDS round under the name M428 (previous generation was M426/DM63).

Also, the Merkava 4's gun is not the MG253, but actually the MG251-LR, which stands for Long Recoil.
The MG253 refers only to the gun integrated on the Sabra tank for the Turkish M60T program.
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Posted 20 September 2019 - 1929 PM

New video by Shephard Media showing some of Rafael's capabilities:

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=CawC4tdszBc
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Posted 21 September 2019 - 2006 PM

Seems that now the 188th brigade is transitioning to the Mark 4M tank, which will be completed in late 2020 or early 2021.
Once complete, the entire active arm of the armored corps will be equipped with Merkava 4 tanks with an APS.

There does seem to be a conflict of information, however.

The report only mentions the Mark 4M tank, not the Barak.
But it was said a while ago that the 188th was selected for the Barak introduction, and that an operational brigade will activate by 2020/2021.

EDIT: It appears the Merkava 4 Barak will enter service in 2022 instead, and in the meantime the 188th will be getting regular Mark 4M tanks.
The armored corps will have to select another brigade to receive the Barak.

The most likely candidate now is the 401st brigade, as it now operates the oldest tanks in active service.

Edited by Mighty_Zuk, 22 September 2019 - 0747 AM.

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