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#341 rmgill

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 1948 PM





On Diversity....



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#342 R011

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 2015 PM

Don't give up on the persuasion techniques. You can get through to such folks.

A directed study on the Holodomor may be an avenue to have him look at.

Perhaps, though I suspect his big brother will either tell him it's just anti Soviet lies or that the Soviet system wasn't True Communism™.

Edited by R011, 19 December 2018 - 2016 PM.

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 2211 PM

Is still possible to get "The Black Book of Communism"?


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#344 rmgill

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 2241 PM

Don't give up on the persuasion techniques. You can get through to such folks.

A directed study on the Holodomor may be an avenue to have him look at.

Perhaps, though I suspect his big brother will either tell him it's just anti Soviet lies or that the Soviet system wasn't True Communism™.


It may, but part of my shift from thinking this way back in my late teens was taking the time to dig into communism and how it worked. What I found was that it didn't work and that it murdered a lot. Even things like the holodomor weren't really clear until I'd had deeper conversations with a friend from Ukraine back in the 2000s. This stuff just isn't taught in school properly.
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#345 FlyingCanOpener

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 0820 AM

 

Don't give up on the persuasion techniques. You can get through to such folks.

A directed study on the Holodomor may be an avenue to have him look at.

Perhaps, though I suspect his big brother will either tell him it's just anti Soviet lies or that the Soviet system wasn't True Communism™.

 

 

Pretty much this. I'm not wasting my breath on the kid (super-smart and sharp kid), but on Meme Friday there's always a Soviet Union meme, and this week we were doing an oil drilling simulation and I rigged it so his group got a $20 billion dollar windfall. I told them I was taking 80% in the form of taxes and instead of spending it on the poor, it was going to build a 4-lane highway in my local congressional district and also to the National Endowment of the Arts to buy doodles from school students' notebooks for a giant art exposition. He protested and I told him to watch it because I could pull a Sweden and jack up the tax rate to 105%. :D


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#346 Ivanhoe

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 1114 AM

VDH on the death of history departments;

 

https://www.national...zed-humanities/

 

Recently the University of Wisconsin–Stevens Point announced plans to drop liberal-arts majors in geography, geology, French, German, two- and three-dimensional art — and history. The Atlantic ran a well-meaning essay by Adam Harris on the controversial move, “The Liberal Arts May Not Survive the 21st Century” — again, a topic much in the news recently. The article’s chief thrust is that insidious efforts to promote STEM vocationalism — the need to prepare young people for careers requiring extensive math and science skill sets — has driven out the need for more in-depth focus on the liberal arts, in a climate in which crass Republican state legislators, in allegedly vindictive and short-sighted fashion, demanded catastrophic cuts in state public higher-education budgets.

 

The Stevens Point campus highlighted a popular perception that emphases in literature, history, or languages lead nowhere for cash-strapped graduates but to more debt and fewer jobs. Yet what the article on official university policy misses is why students do not concentrate in the liberal arts in the fashion of the past.

 

Read the whole thing. One choice bit;

 

Yet if one walks through the local Barnes & Noble bookstore, reviews the non-fiction best-seller lists, scans Amazon’s most-read categories, or looks through book ads in popular magazines, one is struck how well biographies of Churchill and Grant sell, and how histories of war and peace, exploration, and political careers capture the public interest — reminding us that the fault of declining college interest in the liberal arts may be not in the stars of vocationalism or the wrong values of students but rather deep within the university faculty and administration themselves.

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#347 Tim the Tank Nut

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 1327 PM

FCO is genius!

 

tax him til he screams and then remind him that it is all for the greater good


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#348 Ivanhoe

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 1449 PM

FCO is genius!
 
tax him til he screams and then remind him that it is all for the greater good


Holding people accountable to their own values? That's racist (or fascist, or something).
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#349 Mr King

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Posted 07 March 2019 - 2056 PM

Thou shall not commit heresy against the holy roman church of feminism 

 

Cern cuts ties with 'sexist' scientist Alessandro Strumia

 

The European particle physics research centre Cern has cut ties with the scientist who said that women were less able at physics than men.
Cern has decided not to extend Professor Alessandro Strumia’s status of guest professor.
The decision follows an investigation into comments, first reported by BBC News, made by Prof Strumia at a Cern workshop on gender equality.
Prof Strumia told BBC News that he stood by his remarks.
"Some people hated hearing about higher male variance: this idea comes from Darwin, like other offensive ideas that got observational support," he told BBC News.
"Science is not about being offended when facts challenge ideas held as sacred".
He added that he believed that he had not been fairly treated.
"For months, Cern kept 'investigating' if my 30-minute talk might have violated Cern rules [requiring an] 'obligation to exercise reserve and tact in expressing personal opinions and communication to the public'," Prof Strumia said.
"In such a case, they would have opened some procedure, where I would have been able [to defend] myself. This never happened."
Last September, Professor Strumia stated that “physics was invented and built by men, it's not by invitation" at a presentation at the Cern the workshop.He also showed cartoons deriding women campaigning for equality in science and presented the results of an analysis that he claimed showed that work conducted by female physicists was not as good as their male counterparts.
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His analysis was quickly dismissed as being unscientific and incorrect by experts in the impact of research.
But Profesor Strumia told BBC News that his analysis would eventually be proved correct if scientific journals would allow him to publish his research.
"Extra checks confirmed that my results are correct and in line with the specialised literature.
"This will be shown in a scientific paper, if it can appear".
In a statement Cern said: “The incident was investigated in light of the internal Rules and Regulations and the Organisation’s Code of Conduct , which is based on Cern’s core values."
"As a result of its own investigation and following the decision taken by the University of Pisa, Cern decided not to extend Professor Strumia’s status of Guest Professor.”
“Cern reaffirms its commitment to the paramount importance of respect and diversity in the workplace.”
Image caption Prof Strumia claimed there were examples where men were discriminated against
Dr Jessica Wade, a physicist from Imperial College London who was at the workshop where Prof Strumia made his controversial remarks welcomed the decision.
“The recent statement is a powerful message for scientists all over the world; irrespective of your status, you will be held accountable for your actions," she said.
"Well-funded senior academics should not use their positions of power to attack colleagues or demean the work of women."
What was Prof Strumia's argument - and why was it dismissed?
Prof Strumia analysed papers available in a database of particle physics research. He produced a series of graphs which, he claimed, showed that women were hired over men whose research was cited more by other scientists in their publications, which is an indication of higher quality.
He also presented data that he claimed showed that male and female researchers were equally cited at the start of their careers but men scored progressively better as their careers progressed.
This evidence, he said indicated that men produced better research than women. But a group of physicists posted their take on the analysis at particlesforjustice.org and stated that they believed it to be "fundamentally unsound".
They said the correlation was a reflection of the difficulties faced by women in research rather than their abilities. There are many more men in particle physics, and they tend to cite other male colleagues over women. Senior researchers, who are mostly men, often add their names to research conducted by their junior colleagues on the grounds that they supervised the work, although their contribution to the work can often be minimal or non-existent. And disproportionately higher rates of women leave the field.
Those rebutting Prof Stumia's analysis said that "Prof Strumia is not an expert on these topics and is misusing his physics credentials to put himself forward as one. Those among us who are familiar with the relevant literature know that Strumia's conclusions are in stark disagreement with those of experts.
"He frequently made the basic error of conflating correlation with causation, and while Strumia claimed to be proving that there is no discrimination against women, his arguments were rooted in a circumscribed, biased reading of the data available, to the point of promoting a perspective that is biased against women".

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https://archive.fo/q...on-871.0-871.57


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#351 Mr King

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 1144 AM

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#352 R011

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 1241 PM

Remember all Blacks are the same. African Americans and Afro Caribbean people are just like Nigerians who are the same as Kenyans who are the same as South Africans.

Now some will say that even Nigerians etc are not all the same as their other countrymen, but people who say that are all just racists. (Especially the Africans).
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#353 Mikel2

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 1256 PM

Remember all Blacks are the same. African Americans and Afro Caribbean people are just like Nigerians who are the same as Kenyans who are the same as South Africans.

Now some will say that even Nigerians etc are not all the same as their other countrymen, but people who say that are all just racists. (Especially the Africans).


IIRC Nigerian-Americans have a higher average income than white Americans.
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#354 Skywalkre

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 1303 PM

 

Remember all Blacks are the same. African Americans and Afro Caribbean people are just like Nigerians who are the same as Kenyans who are the same as South Africans.

Now some will say that even Nigerians etc are not all the same as their other countrymen, but people who say that are all just racists. (Especially the Africans).


IIRC Nigerian-Americans have a higher average income than white Americans.

 

 

Immigrants are more likely to become millionaires than your average American.  The type of person who emigrates legally is more likely to become an entrepreneur, willing to work more hours, more frugal, etc.  Apparently this is true across the board, regardless of where they came from.  Through actions of their own and from their kids adopting American culture these characteristics quickly disappear in later generations, however.


Edited by Skywalkre, 03 May 2019 - 1312 PM.

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#355 Mobius

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 1722 PM

 

 

Remember all Blacks are the same. African Americans and Afro Caribbean people are just like Nigerians who are the same as Kenyans who are the same as South Africans.

Now some will say that even Nigerians etc are not all the same as their other countrymen, but people who say that are all just racists. (Especially the Africans).


IIRC Nigerian-Americans have a higher average income than white Americans.

 

 

Immigrants are more likely to become millionaires than your average American.  The type of person who emigrates legally is more likely to become an entrepreneur, willing to work more hours, more frugal, etc.  Apparently this is true across the board, regardless of where they came from.  Through actions of their own and from their kids adopting American culture these characteristics quickly disappear in later generations, however.

 

By more likely is that a percentage or is it a raw number?


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#356 Skywalkre

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 1754 PM

 

 

 

Remember all Blacks are the same. African Americans and Afro Caribbean people are just like Nigerians who are the same as Kenyans who are the same as South Africans.

Now some will say that even Nigerians etc are not all the same as their other countrymen, but people who say that are all just racists. (Especially the Africans).


IIRC Nigerian-Americans have a higher average income than white Americans.

 

 

Immigrants are more likely to become millionaires than your average American.  The type of person who emigrates legally is more likely to become an entrepreneur, willing to work more hours, more frugal, etc.  Apparently this is true across the board, regardless of where they came from.  Through actions of their own and from their kids adopting American culture these characteristics quickly disappear in later generations, however.

 

By more likely is that a percentage or is it a raw number?

 

 

Percentage.


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#357 Mobius

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Posted 16 June 2019 - 2053 PM

 

 

 

 

Remember all Blacks are the same. African Americans and Afro Caribbean people are just like Nigerians who are the same as Kenyans who are the same as South Africans.

Now some will say that even Nigerians etc are not all the same as their other countrymen, but people who say that are all just racists. (Especially the Africans).


IIRC Nigerian-Americans have a higher average income than white Americans.

 

 

Immigrants are more likely to become millionaires than your average American.  The type of person who emigrates legally is more likely to become an entrepreneur, willing to work more hours, more frugal, etc.  Apparently this is true across the board, regardless of where they came from.  Through actions of their own and from their kids adopting American culture these characteristics quickly disappear in later generations, however.

 

By more likely is that a percentage or is it a raw number?

 

 

Percentage.

 

Drug smuggling pays well I guess.


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#358 Mikel2

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Posted 16 June 2019 - 2110 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Remember all Blacks are the same. African Americans and Afro Caribbean people are just like Nigerians who are the same as Kenyans who are the same as South Africans.

Now some will say that even Nigerians etc are not all the same as their other countrymen, but people who say that are all just racists. (Especially the Africans).


IIRC Nigerian-Americans have a higher average income than white Americans.

 

 

Immigrants are more likely to become millionaires than your average American.  The type of person who emigrates legally is more likely to become an entrepreneur, willing to work more hours, more frugal, etc.  Apparently this is true across the board, regardless of where they came from.  Through actions of their own and from their kids adopting American culture these characteristics quickly disappear in later generations, however.

 

By more likely is that a percentage or is it a raw number?

 

 

Percentage.

 

Drug smuggling pays well I guess.

 

 

The Nigerians I know who live in the States tend to be highly educated people who do very well. That stat doesn't surprise me one bit.

 

That brain drain does not help Nigeria one bit.


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#359 Ivanhoe

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Posted 17 June 2019 - 0136 AM

The Nigerians I know who live in the States tend to be highly educated people who do very well. That stat doesn't surprise me one bit.
 
That brain drain does not help Nigeria one bit.


In my current job I deal with quite a few Nigerians who are E4s and E5s in the Army. No doubt in my mind that we are getting the cream of the crop.
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#360 Murph

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 0632 AM

Sad, disgusting, and just proves Leftists, SJWs and liberals destroy everything, they are the enemy of civilization.


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