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#1361 JasonJ

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Posted 22 June 2019 - 2258 PM

A squad of young patriotic women have been working at Fiery Cross Reef (永暑礁) for about a year now. So an article with pictures to follow that -wonderful- experience. Towards the end of the article, some of the women are to be transferred to Mischief Reef (美济礁). Article dated June 7th, 2019.

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http://www.mod.gov.c...ent_4843247.htm


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#1362 BansheeOne

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Posted 23 June 2019 - 0458 AM

 

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#1363 JasonJ

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Posted 23 June 2019 - 0509 AM

Not seeing a similarity, a red flag might help :)
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Posted 23 June 2019 - 0917 AM

A Nationalist Chinese flag would serve just as well, considering the Nationalist Chinese origins of Chinese SCS claims.
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Posted 23 June 2019 - 1156 AM

A Nationalist Chinese flag would serve just as well, considering the Nationalist Chinese origins of Chinese SCS claims.

 

History is always being distorted to serve a current purpose.


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#1366 JasonJ

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 0827 AM

There's been a confrontation between the coast guard ships of Vietnam and China over a Vietnamese rig jointly operated with Russia. The rig itself is Japanese. One of China's coast guard ships is the 12,000 ton one.

Last week, the Vietnamese government announced that it would extend the operations of an oil rig on Vanguard Bank through September amid an ongoing standoff with China in the area. Hanoi and Beijing have been mired in a confrontation in recent weeks after China dispatched a survey ship and coast guard vessels to Vietnamese waters in the South China Sea, which it also claims under its capacious nine-dash line claim.

According to Vietnam’s Tuoi Tre newspaper, Vietnam’s Southern Maritime Safety Assurance Corporation announced that the Japanese-owned semi-submersible Hakuryu-5 oil drilling rig, which has been contracted by a joint Vietnamese-Russian venture, would conduct activities on Vanguard Bank through September 15. The decision represents an extension of operations from July 30. Hakuryu-5 began operations off the coast of Vietnam on May 12.

The announcement follows the Vietnamese government’s official call on China to pull back its assets from the disputed waters. “The Chinese survey ship, Haiyang Dizhi 8, and its escorts conducted activities in the southern area of the East Sea that violated Vietnam’s exclusive economic zone and continental shelf,” Vietnam’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement earlier this month.

Haiyang Dizhi 8 is being accompanied by at least two China Coast Guard vessels, including the Haijing 3901, one of the largest coast guard vessels anywhere in the world.

The Vietnamese decision to extend the operations of the oil platform comes after the U.S. Department of State issued a statement backing Hanoi and criticizing China for what it termed “bullying” behavior in the area. Vietnam and China have faced off in recent years over access to probable hydrocarbon reserves in the South China Sea.

Morgan Ortagus, a spokesperson for the U.S. Department of State, released a statement on Saturday condemning China’s “repeated provocative actions aimed at the offshore oil and gas development of other claimant states threaten regional energy security and undermine the free and open Indo-Pacific energy market.”

“China’s reclamation and militarization of disputed outposts in the [South China Sea], along with other efforts to assert its unlawful [South China Sea] maritime claims, including the use of maritime militia to intimidate, coerce, and threaten other nations, undermine the peace and security of the region,” the U.S. statement added.

In 2018, Chinese coercion succeeded in forcing Hanoi’s hand in canceling a project for Spanish oil firm Repsol in the area. In 2014, China moved an oil rig, the Haiyang Shiyou 981, into disputed waters, sparking a months-long crisis.

China and Vietnam, along with the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei Darussalam, and Taiwan, are claimant states in the South China Sea.
https://thediplomat....off-with-china/

 

The location of the confrontation (Vangaurd Bank) seems to be in or around the yellow-marked area in the map image in the link below, so in a more southern area of the South China Sea and rather near Vietnam but just inside the 9 dash line.

http://www.tank-net....34256&p=1380374


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#1367 Nobu

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 0957 AM

It looks like North Vietnam might have a problem in various ways.
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#1368 JasonJ

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 1927 PM

113 PRC fishing boats surround Pag-asa. The Philippines makes a protest.

Philippines protests to China over S.China Sea
The Philippines says it has lodged a protest with China after spotting more than 100 Chinese fishing boats around a Philippine-held island in the South China Sea.

The Philippine government says it recognized 113 Chinese fishing boats surrounding Pagasa, or Thitu island, on July 25.

The island in the Spratlys is effectively controlled by the Philippines, but China also claims territorial sovereignty.

The Philippine government said it lodged a protest with China through diplomatic channels. It says the Chinese ships were swarming to the island, but it stopped short of telling if they entered the nation's alleged territorial waters of 12 nautical miles from the island.

The Philippines says Chinese vessels have intermittently surrounded Pagasa since January, when the Philippine military began rebuilding a runway on the island. It says the count of Chinese ships in the area has reached 275 through April.

Philippine government officials say China may try to disturb the transportation of construction materials for the runway.

A public outcry has been mounting in the Philippines against China following a collision of a Chinese and a Philippine fishing boat near the Reed Bank in the South China Sea in June. The Chinese ship left the site, leaving the Philippine crew abandoned in the sea after their boat sank. The crew members were later all rescued by a Vietnamese ship.

https://www3.nhk.or....ws/20190731_47/

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#1369 Chris Werb

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Posted 01 August 2019 - 0151 AM

It looks like North Vietnam might have a problem in various ways.

 

North Vietnam ceased having problems in 1975.


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#1370 JasonJ

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Posted 17 August 2019 - 2106 PM

PLA Navy Ships have started passing through waters through the Philippines without notification early this year. While Internationally legal, it has always been practiced that a notification was provided first.

Article is dated August 14th

MANILA (UPDATED) —Five more Chinese warships passed through Philippine waters without informing the country's authorities, officials said Wednesday.

Lt. Gen. Cirilito Sobejana, commander of the Armed Forces of the Philippines' Western Mindanao Command, said that 2 such warships were seen along the Sibutu Strait in Tawi-Tawi in July while 3 were spotted this month.

“Warship in general term, reconnaissance, basta armed ’yun, armed,” Sobejana said, describing the kind of warships they spotted.

He said the Western Mindanao Command used its air and naval assets to approach the Chinese warships.

“Since nakita ’yung presence natin agad naman silang umiwas, lumalabas sa teritorya ng ating bansa,” Sobejana said.

While the warships were not perceivably hostile, Sobejana said their movement could also not be considered innocent passage.

“Ang innocent passage, kasi, following the sea lanes of communications, straight line,” he said.

“Pagka medyo nag-korba ka, that is no longer considered as innocent passage."

Under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, or UNCLOS, any foreign vessel may be allowed to cross a coastal state’s territorial waters without notifying the coastal state if they are conducting innocent passage, or movement in a straight path heading back out to sea, essentially just passing through.

However, Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said that the Philippines has always required passing navies to seek diplomatic clearance from the Philippine government when they are passing through, and that historically the world’s navies have followed this protocol until now.

“Since these are warships, their entry to our territory should be coordinated. So we informed the national leadership para sa ganu’n they can engage with their counterparts sa Department of Foreign Affairs o sa mga attachés d’yan sa Manila,” said Sobejana.

Lorenzana revealed last July that Chinese warships passed through Sibutu Strait in “4 instances” that began early this year without informing the Philippine government.

https://news.abs-cbn...nforming-manila


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Posted 17 August 2019 - 2115 PM

Another articled dated August 14th about an observation of 4 other PLA Navy ships passing through Philippine waters on July 2nd.

MANILA, Philippines — Chinese warships have been recently spotted passing through unannounced within Philippine territorial waters, the military said Wednesday.

Western Mindanao Command chief Lt. Gen. Cirilito Sobejana said two Chinese warships were spotted in Sibutu Strait by the Philippine Navy on separate occasions in July and three more in August.

“It was not an innocent passage kasi ang innocent passage straight line lang ‘yun. ‘Pag medyo nag-kurba that is no longer considered an innocent passage,” he said.

Sibutu Strait is an international waterway located near Tawi-Tawi that is within the Philippines’ archipelagic and territorial waters.

The Chinese warships presumably changed course when it observed the Philippine military’s presence.

“Since nakita ‘yung presence natin agad naman silang umiwas, lumabas sa teritoryo ng ating bansa,” he added.


The warships have turned off their automatic identification systems on all occasions and they could not also be contacted through radio, Sobejana said.

“These are warships, their entry to our territory should be coordinated so we informed the national leadership,” he added.

This announcement from the military came after a series of reports on the similarly unannounced presence of Chinese warships and survey ships within the Philippine waters.

Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said last month that Chinese warships have passed through Sibutu Strait four times since February.

He said that foreign commercial ships have the right of innocent passage when passing through the country’s territorial waters, while foreign warships should notify Philippine authorities beforehand.

The Western Command also said last week that four Chinese warships, including its aircraft carrier Liaoning, passed through the vicinity waters of Balabac town in Palawan in June without informing Philippine authorities.

Last week, the Philippine government protested the unauthorized presence of two Chinese survey ships within the Philippines’ exclusive economic zone.

It is also protesting the presence of more than 100 Chinese vessels on Pag-asa (Thitu) Island. /kga

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#1372 JasonJ

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Posted 17 August 2019 - 2121 PM

Location of Sibutu Strait.

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Posted 17 August 2019 - 2125 PM

Also in the Sibutu Strait.

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Posted 17 August 2019 - 2140 PM

It appears that many of the claimants of various geographic features in the South China Sea do not quite respect the claims of the Philippines and Filipinos, either by actions or by policy.

 

The MFA of the Nationalist Chinese/Taiwanese is not going to endear itself to Filipinos by posting the following guidance on its website underneath the benevolent smile of their President Tsai regarding the SCS.

 

Sustainable Governance and Enduring Peace in the South China Sea

The South China Sea Islands are part of the territory of the Republic of China. That the ROC is entitled to all rights over the South China Sea Islands and their relevant waters in accordance with international law and the law of the sea is beyond dispute.

Issues in the South China Sea are highly complicated, given the overlapping claims by claimants, number of States involved, regional security and diplomatic issues, as well as the political and economic interests of the States concerned. The ROC government will continue to engage in cooperative consultations with each of the States.

The government will firmly safeguard the ROC’s territorial sovereignty in the South China Sea, as well as the rights over relevant waters it is entitled to under international law and the law of the sea. It will not renounce its sovereignty or legal rights.

Not only is Taiping Island part of ROC territory, it is also an important base from which Taiwan makes concrete contributions to regional peace and stability. On July 19, 2016, President Tsai Ing-wen put forth four principles and five actions pertaining to issues in the South China Sea.


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Posted 26 August 2019 - 0632 AM

Liaoning came sailing by a small Vietnamese fishing boat among the Spratly Islands in June.


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Posted 24 October 2019 - 0623 AM

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191006-N-VI515-0396 SOUTH CHINA SEA (October 6, 2019) Ships from Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group and Boxer Amphibious Ready Group sail in formation while conducting security and stability operations in the U.S. 7th Fleet area of operations. U.S. 7th Fleet is the largest numbered fleet in the world, and the U.S. Navy has operated in the Indo-Pacific region for more than 70 years, providing credible, ready forces to help preserve peace and prevent conflict. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Erwin Jacob V. Miciano)
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Posted 03 November 2019 - 2209 PM

A Filipino crewed, Greek owned, 60,000 ton class ship passing near Scarborough Shoal to a destination in China was radioed by a Chinese warship to change course away from Scarborough Shoal. The Filipino ship captain maintained course and questioned why must he change course, is it Chinese territory? No response and just again was demanded for the ship to change course.

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Posted 03 November 2019 - 2235 PM

 

 

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