...The guns I hate most are the early Berthiers with three round clips,
Does clip insertion at least takes less time than using stripper clips? It was only positive thing Serbian soldiers noted when they were issued those (and after Mausers 1899/1910 those probably really felt bad)...
the C96 with a mag you can't top up with loose rounds
Ammo for it was issued in stripper clips, so you would have to take ammo off stripper clips, then top it of. Steyr's were sometimes topped off with a stripper clips however, so in theory you should be able to do the same with C-96.
BTW, does it model god-awful behavior of C-96 when used as pistol (nose heaviness, tendency to roll and twist in a hand when fired etc)?
and the Chauchat in both French and US guises.
Oh and the M1897 shotgun is the only weapon I think is badly modelled ballistically - it's really anaemic.
Well, period 00 buck was packaged in 2&1/4" shells, and is practically 9 x .32 ACP with a worse velocity retention cause it is round balls.
At longer distances (and everything over 25-35m is long distance for a shotgun) shotgun is pretty poor choice.
And there is a fact that Winchester 1897 is pretty peculiar in a way you have to rack it, and not doing it "right way" leads to a short stroking and other problems.
IMO, whole "military shotguns" was and still is such a limited niche that with a hindsight it was practically not worth pursuing.
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1. Yes, clip insertion is faster in game, and they incorrectly model by having the user pull the stripper clip out, whereas most common bolt action rifles eject the clip when you push the bolt forward - this makes stripper clip loading even slower vs clip in the game. The problem with the en bloc clip system as modelled in the game (is this also so in reality?) is that it doesn't let you top up with single rounds - nor does the game let you eject a partially spent clip. So you can end up with a rifle with one or two round in it with an enemy wave incoming or an unknown number of enemies just about to pop around the corner of the trench. Another thing I would love to see changed, on the Lee Enfield SMLe in particular, is that, when you reload, you always load fully, even in a dire situation. I would like to see it changed so that one press of R loads either a 5 round clip or the number of rounds to bring the rifle up to 5 and pressing twice or again, loads another clip or the number of rounds necessary to fill the magazine. It also doesn't allow you to put one up the spout. Another historically technically accurate but annoying anomaly is the 6 round .30-06 mag on the M1917 - when loading from empty it always loads a clip, then a single round. I would prefer to have the option not to do that which changing to a two stage R procedure would provide.
2. Thank you for your info on the C96 - so the game should let you top off by partially loading a stripper clip? Even if that wasn't doctrinal, I would still like to see it implemented. I haven't used the C96, or any pistol, much, so can't comment on the firing characteristics, but my favourite are the Lugers with smail drums, for obvious reasons (the game doesn't model reliability)
3. Just trust me, the Chauchat in game is just horrible to shoot (very true to the Project Lightening and earlier videos) - and, again, reliability isn't modelled.
4. Sorry, I can't remember if I said, but I have owned quite a few 12 bore shotguns and am well aware of their RL ballistics The game models the buckshot round really, really anaemically - I would have to show you this in game. It's almost a less than lethal weapon at ranges beyond about ten yards. In reality shotguns were a bit of a disaster, primarily because paper cased ammo was less than ideal for military use (to put it mildly). Ian and Othias did a good video debunking WW1 use of the Trench Gun. In reality, the thing would have been a liability anyway as you point out - you are almost always going to end up in situations where you need more range and precision and are not going to want to swap back and forth with slugs and the 5 round tube mag is also a liability. In game you get an M1911 with that loadout and I end up keeping the shotgun as a backup to the pistol!
WW1 is full of tantalising fantasies about what might have been. I know that, if you ran time again with all the factors exactly the same, you would get the same result, but there are so many things that could have been done differently that would have been so much better - many of them were done shortly after WW1, like effectively putting an aperture sight on the SMLE. I'd like an RSC 1918 in something like 6.5 Carcano with a much smaller, pointed, flat based bullet, taking a BAR like QD 20 round box mag (also capable of stripper clip loading from above) and having the sights off the P14/M1917 (with the option of the "Fine" version and with windage adjustment, which the sight historically did not have). A fully worked out Mk III Ross, cut down to SMLE length with a lighter barre and 10 round box (or better still a detachable 20 rounder off the BAR*) would be nice too.
*The BAR mag wasn't anything to write home about, particularly in its construction, but it existed at the time.