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[EchoFiveMike]

It's a scam for parasites to expand and justify their parasitism.

 

Global warming?  Really a problem?  Take all these parasites and forcibly return their carbon to the earth.  S/F....Ken M

[lucklucky]

It is always to justify power over others. 

 

The narrative changed from Global Warming to Climate Change precisely because it less falsifiable and everything that happens in climate can be put under it and utilized for political proposes.

[Cinaruco]

Among the largest oil producers in the world there is Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iran, Venezuela, Nigeria, Angola and Mexico, third world countries... If Gaia is that a priority why do these primitive countries closer to the Mother don't just revolt Avatar style?

 

PS: China and Russia are also third world, compared to the US.

[Mr King]

http://e-tangata.co....the-slave-trade

Climate change is like slave trade...written by a "Pacific" (btw which nation/ethnicity is that exactly) studies academic. Most importantly though no actual policy ideas, just a loose set of accusations against the economic system, mass consumer culture, and how we all must identify as "victims" of our economic interactions.

I'm sure a high profile defender of climate science will be along to repudiate this nonsense. I won't hold my breath. But seriously, this could have been written as a troll piece by the anti climate change crowd.

 

I imagine because the intended audience already shares agreement in what the policy solutions are. Marx wrote them up a long time ago.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr King]

It is always to justify power over others. 

 

The narrative changed from Global Warming to Climate Change precisely because it less falsifiable and everything that happens in climate can be put under it and utilized for political proposes.

 

I am having flashbacks to when the eco-commies seriously blamed a tsunami on Bush W because he didn't sign the Kyoto treaty. 

[Mobius]

http://e-tangata.co....the-slave-trade

Climate change is like slave trade...written by a "Pacific" (btw which nation/ethnicity is that exactly) studies academic. Most importantly though no actual policy ideas, just a loose set of accusations against the economic system, mass consumer culture, and how we all must identify as "victims" of our economic interactions.

I'm sure a high profile defender of climate science will be along to repudiate this nonsense. I won't hold my breath. But seriously, this could have been written as a troll piece by the anti climate change crowd.

Pointed out that the US abolished slavery 32 years after the British.  Saudi Arabia abolished it in 1962.  Some Muslim countries abolished several times.  And keep on abolishing it.  Time after time. Good job.

[Arawa]

http://e-tangata.co....the-slave-trade

Climate change is like slave trade...written by a "Pacific" (btw which nation/ethnicity is that exactly) studies academic. Most importantly though no actual policy ideas, just a loose set of accusations against the economic system, mass consumer culture, and how we all must identify as "victims" of our economic interactions.

I'm sure a high profile defender of climate science will be along to repudiate this nonsense. I won't hold my breath. But seriously, this could have been written as a troll piece by the anti climate change crowd.

 
What does this have to do with climate science?
 
People think that building airports and roads is racist, that doesn't mean that it involves engineering at all.

It has virtually nothing to do with actual science, but is an example of junk partisan arguments actually damaging the work of respectable scientists and degrading where the focus should be.

This academic in trying to create some cover for the hyperbole of the Kiribati President, probably thinks they are helping the cause.

Edited by Arawa, 25 September 2016 - 1955 PM.

[Arawa]

 

 

http://e-tangata.co....the-slave-trade

Climate change is like slave trade...written by a "Pacific" (btw which nation/ethnicity is that exactly) studies academic. Most importantly though no actual policy ideas, just a loose set of accusations against the economic system, mass consumer culture, and how we all must identify as "victims" of our economic interactions.

I'm sure a high profile defender of climate science will be along to repudiate this nonsense. I won't hold my breath. But seriously, this could have been written as a troll piece by the anti climate change crowd.

 
What does this have to do with climate science?
 
People think that building airports and roads is racist, that doesn't mean that it involves engineering at all.

It has virtually nothing to do with actual science, but is an example of junk partisan arguments actually damaging the work of respectable scientists and degrading where the focus should be.

This academic in trying to create some cover for the hyperbole of the Kiribati President, probably thinks they are helping the cause.
 

 
It actually doesn't damage the work of actual scientists in the opinions of anyone who matters.
 
It is the politicians and lobbies getting involved that does the damage.

Sure but the opinions of decision makers are not formed by scientist's alone.

Heck this article is basically an attempt to gin up some cover for an elected national President who made the initial comparison between climate change and slavery. A President who is a stalwart in the climate action movement, and is at the forefront of arguing that climate refugees should be recognised.

[Corinthian]

 

 

Recently read that Leonardo DiCaprio, took a private jet from Cannes, where he was staying on a megayacht, to fly thousands of miles to accept an award for his global warming awareness efforts and then promptly flew back to continue partying with his fellow SJWs. But don't worry, he owns a Prius!

 

I hate hypocritical arseholes like that.

 

 

 

Ya know, in their minds, these hypocrites think they do nothing wrong because they donate their money to organizations that support climate change initiatives. By doing so, they justify jetting back and forth as long as they donate their money and use their influence/star appeal for the cause. I reckon that's how they think, and do so very sincerely. All the less influential, poorer proles like us will have to actually lower our carbon footprint, because we don't have the cash or influence to "save Gaia" through speaking engagements and altruistic feelings.

[Corinthian]

http://e-tangata.co....the-slave-trade

Climate change is like slave trade...written by a "Pacific" (btw which nation/ethnicity is that exactly) studies academic. Most importantly though no actual policy ideas, just a loose set of accusations against the economic system, mass consumer culture, and how we all must identify as "victims" of our economic interactions.

I'm sure a high profile defender of climate science will be along to repudiate this nonsense. I won't hold my breath. But seriously, this could have been written as a troll piece by the anti climate change crowd.

 

And there it is. In the end, the point of it all isn't protecting Gaia or shit. It's about demanding and getting reparations from The Man™ because it's easier to blame the rich for the poor's socio-economic situation.

[sunday]

Well, then there is a real case of selling of indulgences

 

Some, I think, false cases in the 15th century helped to trigger the Reformation.

[Panzermann]

http://e-tangata.co....the-slave-trade

Climate change is like slave trade...written by a "Pacific" (btw which nation/ethnicity is that exactly) studies academic. Most importantly though no actual policy ideas, just a loose set of accusations against the economic system, mass consumer culture, and how we all must identify as "victims" of our economic interactions.

I'm sure a high profile defender of climate science will be along to repudiate this nonsense. I won't hold my breath. But seriously, this could have been written as a troll piece by the anti climate change crowd.

 
I imagine because the intended audience already shares agreement in what the policy solutions are. Marx wrote them up a long time ago.  
 

Beg your pardon, but please can you point me to where exactly Karl Marx wrote about world wide climate change?

http://www.dearchiv.de/php/mewinh.php
http://www.mlwerke.de/me/default.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/

[Panzermann]

Well, then there is a real case of selling of indulgences
 
Some, I think, false cases in the 15th century helped to trigger the Reformation.

Selling good feelings to people with bad karma is big business!

Most prolific salesman of good karma Johann Tetzel said "Sobald der Gülden im Becken klingt im huy die Seel im Himmel springt" (as soon as the coin rings in the box, the soul jumps to heaven) or jumps out of purgatory and similar claims to sell his product. ("As soon as a coin in the coffer rings / the soul from purgatory springs") Luther directly relates to this travelling salesman in things spiritual in his famous thesis.

And it has not changed much since. It is so much easier to spend a bit of money and receive a good concince than to actually reflect and change own behaviour. Today people are scared of the environment instead of hell.

[Mobius]

 

http://e-tangata.co....the-slave-trade

Climate change is like slave trade...written by a "Pacific" (btw which nation/ethnicity is that exactly) studies academic. Most importantly though no actual policy ideas, just a loose set of accusations against the economic system, mass consumer culture, and how we all must identify as "victims" of our economic interactions.

I'm sure a high profile defender of climate science will be along to repudiate this nonsense. I won't hold my breath. But seriously, this could have been written as a troll piece by the anti climate change crowd.

 

And there it is. In the end, the point of it all isn't protecting Gaia or shit. It's about demanding and getting reparations from The Man™ because it's easier to blame the rich for the poor's socio-economic situation.

 

Because the usual Cargo Cult practices haven't worked.

[Mr King]

Beg your pardon, but please can you point me to where exactly Karl Marx wrote about world wide climate change?

http://www.dearchiv.de/php/mewinh.php
http://www.mlwerke.de/me/default.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/

 

 

You misunderstand. Their (those on the global warming bandwagon) policies always boil down to implementing Marxism. Capitalism is the disease and good old fashioned socialism is the cure. In their world climate change is but a symptom of the biggest problem facing humanity, and that is capitalism. 

[BP]

 

Beg your pardon, but please can you point me to where exactly Karl Marx wrote about world wide climate change?

http://www.dearchiv.de/php/mewinh.php
http://www.mlwerke.de/me/default.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/

 

 

You misunderstand. Their (those on the global warming bandwagon) policies always boil down to implementing Marxism. Capitalism is the disease and good old fashioned socialism is the cure. In their world climate change is but a symptom of the biggest problem facing humanity, and that is capitalism. 

 

 

[Ivanhoe]

Today people are scared of the environment instead of hell.

Not scared of the environment*, scared of being publicly flogged after being convicted in the courts of public opinion for being insufficiently concerned about the environment.

* The SJWs wouldn't be smoking pot grown in national forests that have had their forest bulldozed to make room for grow ops, if they were worried about the environment. Or pot grown in basements using grow lamps powered by dead dinosaurs...
 

[sunday]

 

Well, then there is a real case of selling of indulgences
 
Some, I think, false cases in the 15th century helped to trigger the Reformation.

Selling good feelings to people with bad karma is big business!

Most prolific salesman of good karma Johann Tetzel said "Sobald der Gülden im Becken klingt im huy die Seel im Himmel springt" (as soon as the coin rings in the box, the soul jumps to heaven) or jumps out of purgatory and similar claims to sell his product. ("As soon as a coin in the coffer rings / the soul from purgatory springs") Luther directly relates to this travelling salesman in things spiritual in his famous thesis.

And it has not changed much since. It is so much easier to spend a bit of money and receive a good concince than to actually reflect and change own behaviour. Today people are scared of the environment instead of hell.

 

 

And you here explained the business model of almost all street beggars, charities, and NGOs that in the world have existed: sell quietness of conscience in exchange for a reasonable amount of money.

 

So most of them do not bother to apply the money to their stated ends, as the act of donating to some cause that could be even remotely felt as good by the public to the organization is the real purpose for most of the donors, traceability of the funds be damned. Most of those funds should be invested in marketing, in order to convince the public that the cause is Good™.

Edited by sunday, 26 September 2016 - 0844 AM.