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#1 DB

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 0423 AM

We've discussed the state of frigate/destroyer sized combatants before, of course, with the Australian,Canadian and UK procurements of particular interest.

The MoD halted the Type 31e competition recently due to concerns over the competitiveness of the bids.

The Babcock led option is Arrowhead, based off the Danish Iver Huitfeldt design, whilst BAe Systems and Cammel Laird are offering Leander.

The Leander website launched recently, here http://www.leanderfrigate.com

Different lengths are available, 99m to 120m, whuch makes it comparable with arrowhead where at least two different lengths have been showcased.

Arrowhead https://www.babcocki...-design-at-DSEI
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#2 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 0523 AM

Good name for a Frigade. But judging by the paint scheme for a horrible moment I thought the lead unit would be HMS Austin Powers.

 

Hope Cammel Laird wins it personally.


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Posted 07 August 2018 - 0553 AM

Nice looks on that Leander design btw.


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Posted 07 August 2018 - 0640 AM

Its a shame it doesnt have an atlantic bow, like the original leanders, or all the way through to the Rothsay class. But then I guess it wouldnt be very stealthy.

 

Its got a very European look to it actually.


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#5 shep854

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 0852 AM

Still seems kind of soon to resurrect Leander as a class name...

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#6 DB

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Posted 27 October 2018 - 1634 PM

Interesting that both Australia and Canada have gone for the Type 26.


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#7 Chris Werb

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Posted 27 October 2018 - 1643 PM

Still seems kind of soon to resurrect Leander as a class name...

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Do I sound old? :P

 

It does and you do ( :P ), but the 1931 HMS Leander was scrapped in 1949, only ten years before work started on the frigate HMS Leander which entered service in 1963. I'm not sure when the new Leander's will enter service, but the frigate, F109, was sunk as a target in 1989, 29 years ago - there will be at least a 30 year gap between the named ships existences and longer between F109's departure from service and the new ship's service entry.


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Posted 27 October 2018 - 1723 PM

Wonder if either design would work for the USN's future frigate requirement?


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Posted 27 October 2018 - 1745 PM

Wonder if either design would work for the USN's future frigate requirement?

 

The 31e is not remotely as capable and is less survivable than any of the contenders for the USN contract.


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Posted 27 October 2018 - 1845 PM

Well, at any rate, they look more svelte :D


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#11 Chris Werb

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 1736 PM

it looks like an oligarch's yacht with a gun on the forecastle. :)


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Posted 29 October 2018 - 0456 AM

I think one could reasonably suggest that the type 26 success is in part due to the US obsessing over the LCS, with Burkes being too big and not ASW focussed.

Edited by DB, 29 October 2018 - 0615 AM.

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#13 Dawes

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Posted 29 October 2018 - 1908 PM

Some observers consider the LCS an outright mistake.


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Posted 29 October 2018 - 2112 PM

Good name for a Frigade. But judging by the paint scheme for a horrible moment I thought the lead unit would be HMS Austin Powers.

 

Hope Cammel Laird wins it personally.

Straight out of WOWS, give a 4% decreased visibility bonus, 3% increased morale bonus and 200% free XP


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#15 DB

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 0904 AM

Babcock wins. I am somewhat surprised.

https://www.bbc.co.u...siness-49670332
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#16 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 0907 AM

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Edited by Stuart Galbraith, 12 September 2019 - 0922 AM.

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 0422 AM


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#18 DB

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Posted 24 September 2019 - 0326 AM

There was an interesting suggestion that "trouble" with the Type 31 could lead the navy towards enhancing the OPVs they're building so they can be used as "temporary frigates". Of course, this was not in any way a possible play to have those take the very low role and creep up the capability of the T31 when it does arrive.
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#19 Chris Werb

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 0553 AM

There was an interesting suggestion that "trouble" with the Type 31 could lead the navy towards enhancing the OPVs they're building so they can be used as "temporary frigates". Of course, this was not in any way a possible play to have those take the very low role and creep up the capability of the T31 when it does arrive.

 

What trouble?


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Posted 07 October 2019 - 0837 AM

Insolvency in shipyards.
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