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#41 Simon Tan

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Posted 04 June 2016 - 2323 PM

It empowers them with the correct tools to continue exploring. Welcome to the 21st century.


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Posted 05 June 2016 - 0116 AM

Ok people don't shot each other about my lack of words :P ,thx to both of you for making me use new words. :)

 

So back to topic ,the parts that will be made from polymer are 4 & 8.

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Posted 05 June 2016 - 0602 AM

Are there metal rails inside 4 in order to guide 3?


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#44 Panzermann

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Posted 05 June 2016 - 0646 AM

The handguard (7) is made from aluminium I presume?


How far along is the bullpup development?
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Posted 05 June 2016 - 0702 AM

Are there metal rails inside 4 in order to guide 3?

 

 

 

The handguard (7) is made from aluminium I presume?


How far along is the bullpup development?

I have no information from what it is made ,but i could be that your right .Bullpup development is ongoing

 

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Posted 06 June 2016 - 0537 AM

I guess since this deals with Polish Small Arms I'll post it here:
Polish Armed Forces has placed its largest ever order for small arms, ordering over 26,000 Beryl rifles from Fabryka Broni Lucznik Radom.

Worth PLN156 million (USD39.4 million), the contract includes the delivery of 17,621 wz. 96C Beryl assault rifles and 8,400 wz. 96C Mini Beryl carbines between 2016 and 2019.

The order is the largest single firearms contract signed by Poland since 1990 and the biggest since Fabryka Broni Lucznik Radom was founded in 2000.

The wz. 96 Beryl assault rifle and short-barrelled wz. 96 Mini Beryl carbine fed in 5.56x45 NATO were introduced in 1998 to replace 5.45x39 wz. 88 Tantal, 7.62x39 mm AK/AKM rifles in the Polish Army.

The newest wz. 96C Beryl/Mini Beryl variant, introduced in 2009, is equipped with a Picatinny rail handguard, a telescopic stock, a handgrip, an ergonomic pistol grip, and enlarged magazine and safety levers and fire selector switch (single, 3-round burst, auto).

All remaining wz. 96A/B rifles and carbines are gradually converted to the wz. 96C standard during maintenance.

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http://www.janes.com...00-beryl-rifles
http://www.thefirear...ls-mini-beryls/

These seem to be destined to arm their new 35,000 member paramilitary force that was just created:
[/qoute]Poland says it will start recruiting in September for a new 35,000-strong paramilitary defence force because of tensions with Russia.
Defence Minister Antoni Macierewicz said top positions in the Territorial Defence Force had already been decided.
The force will have civilian volunteers trained in military skills. It is aimed at countering "hybrid" warfare of the kind that led parts of Ukraine to break away and pledge loyalty to Russia.
Nato also plans to reinforce Poland.
One Nato battalion will be deployed to Poland and three more to the neighbouring Baltic states - Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. The total troop deployment is expected to be about 4,000, on a rotating basis.[/qoute]
http://www.bbc.com/n...europe-36442848

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#47 Simon Tan

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Posted 06 June 2016 - 0718 AM

Why bother with useless things like burst limiters and obsolescent P-rails? Seems horribly pointless and dated.


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Posted 06 June 2016 - 1716 PM

Way off topic, but wouldn't Russia's ability to conduct hybrid warfare inside Eastern Poland be dependent on there being a large, disgruntled and vociferous ethnic Russian minority there? I wasn't aware one existed.


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Posted 06 June 2016 - 1752 PM

Why bother with useless things like burst limiters and obsolescent P-rails? Seems horribly pointless and dated.


The burst limiter I agree is a needless complication.

But the Beryls are not that decked out with with mil-std-1913/STANAG 2324/4694 rails. They ain't M16 A4. And all the gadgets come with rail interface.
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#50 Simon Tan

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Posted 06 June 2016 - 2152 PM

Lots of 'traitors' who don't view the Communist period as Soviet occupation. They will be eliminated in due course.

 

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No rail gap!!!!


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Posted 06 June 2016 - 2154 PM

There is MLOK.


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Posted 07 June 2016 - 1503 PM

There is MLOK.


Picaps :P

KeyMod if you like sheet steel shelving systems

the new H&K mounting system

etc. etc.

But none of these are military standard.
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Posted 07 June 2016 - 1903 PM

Mlok achieves the stability that keymod and picaps lack. In real terms it is outselling keymod 3:1. NATO is irrelevant... standards are now market driven.
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Posted 08 June 2016 - 0432 AM

In what ways is Mlok is better than Keymod Simon? From what I've seen, the Keymod is seen as the Betamax to Mlok's VHS. A better system with better flexibility of mounting, return to zero and longevity, and flush fitting internally, but more expensive and awkward to machine and limited market penetration. You have to remember that even losing out 3:1 to Mlok, it's still a quarter share of an immense US domestic market. At least until Hillary wins... (shudder!)


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Posted 08 June 2016 - 0854 AM

 

Return to zero. Recoil setting, i.e. recoil just beds it better.


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Posted 08 June 2016 - 1930 PM

Thank you Simon. Great video!


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Posted 08 June 2016 - 1938 PM

When this was revealed, keymod became a zombie.
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Posted 09 June 2016 - 1035 AM

I confess I keep watching that video over and over. Speaking as someone who has messed about with scope and accessory mounting on literally dozens of air rifles and firearms, that is just so darned cool!


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Posted 09 June 2016 - 1040 AM

If you have a 1913 rail, you can have this instead....

 

 

Self adjusting, recoil setting.


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Posted 09 June 2016 - 1104 AM

Oddly I already have that one on an Affiliate Marketing site that I made years ago. Very cool too.


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