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#1 Chris Werb

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Posted 26 April 2019 - 2109 PM

Old news, but I thought it was interesting that Poland explicitely states that it will integrate HIMARS with IBCS to attack hostile missile launchers as part of its integrated air and missile defence system.

 

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Posted 27 April 2019 - 0528 AM

Thanks, it was kinda news to me.


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Posted 27 April 2019 - 0534 AM

It's a really good blog too.
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Posted 27 April 2019 - 0722 AM

When I saw the thread title, I wondered how HIMARS had been adapted as a SAM.

Interesting, but logical, to consider intercepting launchers as part of the national AD network.


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Posted 27 April 2019 - 1225 PM

Presumably Poland will eventually acquire the new, longer-range ATACMS replacement?


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Posted 27 April 2019 - 1640 PM

Presumably Poland will eventually acquire the new, longer-range ATACMS replacement?

 

Which no longer has to be INF Treaty compliant. It is also intended to be significantly cheaper as well as two per pod as opposed to one per pod. In a crisis, the Poles' ability to disperse 160 HIMARS launchers, each possibly with a loadout of two >500km range near precision guided missiles (also potentially with anti ship/anti emitter capability in a few years time) ought to provide a powerful deterrent.


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Posted 27 April 2019 - 1646 PM

 

Presumably Poland will eventually acquire the new, longer-range ATACMS replacement?

 

Which no longer has to be INF Treaty compliant. It is also intended to be significantly cheaper as well as two per pod as opposed to one per pod. In a crisis, the Poles' ability to disperse 160 HIMARS launchers, each possibly with a loadout of two >500km range near precision guided missiles (also potentially with anti ship/anti emitter capability in a few years time) ought to provide a powerful deterrent.

 

 

I disagree. Long range fires of that sort could only take out stationary targets or SAM batteries (the latter probably not).

The Poles' real nightmare should be tank brigade raids.

 

Look at their (utterly inane) land forces locations. They would be hard-pressed to assault the Kaliningrad brigade (better than trying to contain) if their brigades close to Kaliningrad aren't overrun in the first hours anyway. Some forces need to secure Warsaw to the East.

Some more brigades are far west and lack the bridging equipment to cross the Vistula on their own if the bridges are blown.

 

The Poles have VERY different needs right now than some 500 km missiles.

They need all-new barracks and training ranges for a more sensible placement of their active field brigades.

 

https://defense-and-...forces-siy.html


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Posted 27 April 2019 - 1708 PM

I doubt that necessary move will happen on the basis that moving bases West would be seen as preemptively giving up territory psychologically. I did see another article on there about buying tank destroyers to replace BRDM-2 based versions specifically to operate in the Suwalki gap. You might find that interesting.


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