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#1 franko

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 1618 PM

So, finally gave in and had to upgrade sooner or later. My old Windows XP SP3 was about at the end and I had enough of the virus' and malware recently.

I was going to do one of two things with it...either turn it into a boat anchor or put it on the range and fire 105mm.

So I bought a new Mac i5 from Future Shop last night and got them to do a transfer of my files from the old PC to the Mac.

There is a shit load missing. Over 4.4 gigs of music and all my photos.

They did a file transfer of the 3 user profiles and that was it. I was able to find 250 songs and a couple dozen photos.



My situation / question to the Mac users here is this:

I have a 1Tb hard drive that has all of my files/ movies/ pictures/ music....everything.

If I were to plug that into the Mac via Firewire, would I be able to copy it to the Mac or better yet, would iTunes recognize the files, place them in the appropriate library?

Would it be better just to take in the new Mac and get the mouth breathers to re-do their efforts and wait out?


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Posted 31 August 2011 - 1716 PM

Some harddisks have a jumper that can be set to put it in read only mode. That would be the safest method to make sure that nothing can happen to the original files as you plug in the disk to your new computer.
That being said, as long as you just want to copy stuff from the old disk to the new computer, I think you can give it a try. Macs should be able to handle NTFS formatted disks even though they would bypass the security settings (which essentially is what you want). If you are afraid, let the mouth-breathers do it. But keep in mind, they will probably refuse any liability for data loss, so you can just as well do it yourself.
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#3 franko

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 1720 PM

I still have to fire up the old PC and take a look at what it looks like now. Should be the same.

Key word is....should.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 0000 AM

Windows stores some things in weird places. Could be the images are in some shared documents, images or music folders separate from the user/documents folders.

I would do one of two things:

1. Set the old computer up and network them together. You should be able to get some sort of share from the PC to the MAC or from the MAC to the PC by creating a share on one machine and mounting said share on the other.

2. If the 1 TB disk is good, it's best to use it. One should be able to find a firewire or USB enclosure from say New Egg that will allow you to put that drive in that enclosure and use that to mount on the mac.

An option I would less likely do is rely on someone else to transfer my files:

3. If you take it back into the store, go through the window's box and FIND the files first and put them in a central location that's easy to find.
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 0115 AM

Take the Mac back to the store and trade it in for a PC. Lots more value for money.
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 1117 AM

Take the Mac back to the store and trade it in for a PC. Lots more value for money.
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Well, I'm done with the PC world all due to the viruses and other bullshit.

Seeingas I have iPhone and iPod...might as well make it compatible.

Thanks for your suggestion. Do you have any help to add?

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 1250 PM

Yes: do it yourself. As others said already, get an external housing for the hard drive and copy the files by hand. Use the HD either as backup medium via time machine or any other backup program afterwards. EDIT: Those guys at whatever store might be proficient enough to copy Joe Doe's Administrative account and maybe even his second account with reduced privileges, but anything more complicated will likely throw them off track. I don't blame them because any personalized PC is, well, personal. Gotta do the same thing with an migration from a G5/OS10.4 to a Mini/OS10.6 these days, cause the migration assistant kept thinking about it for a good day (24h+) until I strangled it. F*ck it, I still miss FInder 7 - 9.x: Sure the PCs crashed several times a day, but the overall time span lost by this probably wasn't much higher than the clusterf*ck of moving the Progs and Data form PC to PC under BSD (OSx is a pepped-up BSD) right now.

Or, better still (as OS 10.7 seems to have issues with NTFS): connect both computers via ethernet and copy the files by a shared volume. Do the external drive thing afterwards, but consider wether you don't want to keep the old disk untouched in case you've missed something important, and simply by a new external drive for backup purposes. I usually remove my old drives before trashing the PCs and keep them dry and cool for at least another ten years.

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Edited by APF, 01 September 2011 - 1259 PM.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 2219 PM

I concur with the suggestion to do it yourself. Never trust the Nerd Herd. Too many horror stories. I know a couple of former Nerd Herders that are totally competent, but there's too much risk your drive will simply get wiped.

If you can put both your old PC and new Mac on the same network, like connected to the same router, you can install a freeware FTP server on your Windows box and use the command line FTP client on the Mac. Its been eons since I've been on an OSX box, but I recall its command-line utilities are pretty complete. When incoming files are written to the local working directory on the Mac, they should inherit the default owner, group, and permission bits of the Mac user running the FTP client.
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 2231 PM

IPod....how quaint.
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 0206 AM

I'd say try to copy them using an external disk formatted in fat32 or something similar. IIRC there are a ton of issues using ntfs-disks in macs.

/R (who worked with support in a mixed unix/windows/mac-environment and got the gray hair but wasn't paided a bonus...)
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 0251 AM

I don't have a clue, but I am highly interested in this innovative solution to hardware issues:

...or put it on the range and fire 105mm.


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Posted 02 September 2011 - 0636 AM

Thanks for the suggestions guys, much appreciated.

I used my Tb HD to do the transfer of my music and photos. It took forever, but it's done.

Now to try and figure out how to get my iTunes playlists copied over. Then all I have to do is link them to the new location.

They all show up under the music header but the lists are blank. Hmmmm. There has to be an easier way....
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 1101 AM

Interesting thread, though a lot of it was Geek to me. I understood enough to stick with my Windows laptop; whatever its issues, I'm used to it. Plus, it's paid for!
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Posted 04 September 2011 - 1629 PM

Interesting thread, though a lot of it was Geek to me. I understood enough to stick with my Windows laptop; whatever its issues, I'm used to it. Plus, it's paid for!


The only thing I was used to was viruses and malware, along with slow speeds and all kinds of other shyte. Hence the switch.

The Mac is paid for in cash. I don't do credit. ;)

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 1837 PM

I don't know what you did. I had my last virus around 1993, and I don't have particularly sophisticated anti virus measures. I'm behind a router with NAT, and I use the Windows firewall, more or less with standard settings. In the past 15 years I avoided the popular web browsers, and I don't visit warez and shady porn sites, or participate much in peer to peer filesharing. I avoid most offers for "free software". My email client doesn't use the IE HTML engine either, and I block all elements that are loaded from external web locations if I read the HTML formatted text at all (usually I stick to the ASCII text). I'm hesitant to open email attachments (it's not that I don't do it, but usually only from people that I know and when the context makes some sense). I regularly update Windows, the anti virus software, Adobe programs (including Flash). By and large I have skipped the chat, the instant messenger, and the social network craze.

Admittedly that probably qualifies me as borderline Luddite, or at least as a retro netizen. But apparently I managed to dodge all the general purpose viruses. Not saying that my system is immune, but anti virus software really is the last line of defense. Common sense and a security-aware selection of internet related applications are much more important than the selection of the operating system. MacOS is not the least better protected against malware, rather the contrary. So far it only benefits from it being less popular than Windows systems. That may eventually change, and the question is whether the corporate culture of Apple will allow them to recognize and admit that they too have a serious problem. I have mostly seen indications of denial - though I admit that I'm not following the Mac world with much attention.

I'm agnostic about the selection of operating systems. Use whatever suits you. But I firmly believe in the value of general alertness and mild paranoia when connecting to the internet.
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Posted 05 September 2011 - 1952 PM

I don't visit warez and shady porn sites

High quality porn sites are another story. :P


I haven't had a virus issue in a very long time. And the last one I had was pure stupidity on my part.
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Posted 05 September 2011 - 2102 PM

My wife used to go to an online gaming site known as Pogo.

Ever since we started to get issues and the computer would bog down. So much that I had to do a complete wipe and reinstall.

She'd go back on the site and it happened again. I don't think it was coincidence.

Then of course there was naive lil' ol' me using Limewire, that sure didn't help out one bit.

Meh, learn from one's mistakes.

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 2359 PM

High quality porn sites are another story. :P


I haven't had a virus issue in a very long time. And the last one I had was pure stupidity on my part.


A lot of virus you'll never know you've got.
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Posted 06 September 2011 - 0206 AM

I don't know what you did. I had my last virus around 1993, and I don't have particularly sophisticated anti virus measures. I'm behind a router with NAT, and I use the Windows firewall, more or less with standard settings. In the past 15 years I avoided the popular web browsers, and I don't visit warez and shady porn sites, or participate much in peer to peer filesharing. I avoid most offers for "free software". My email client doesn't use the IE HTML engine either, and I block all elements that are loaded from external web locations if I read the HTML formatted text at all (usually I stick to the ASCII text). I'm hesitant to open email attachments (it's not that I don't do it, but usually only from people that I know and when the context makes some sense). I regularly update Windows, the anti virus software, Adobe programs (including Flash). By and large I have skipped the chat, the instant messenger, and the social network craze.


Same here, since 2000-ish, except that:

1) I dunno what a router with NAT is
2) I use Firefox (a popular web browser) with NoScript add-on (which removed a LOT of headaches; franko, if you still have a windows machine and use firefox as a browser, get this)
3) I visit porn sites (that's a given :lol: ) but not shady ones (:huh: links please.... :lol: )
4) My email is web-based and they use an antivirus
5) I only open attachments that I requested
6) I don't use flash drives (which is the current #1 reason why computers are infected - over here, at least)


High quality porn sites are another story. :P


METART AND JAV SITES FTW!!!!! :lol:
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 1615 PM

Anyone know of a good reliable App or program to convert avi files to iTunes capable?

I got a shit load of movies and I want to convert them so I can sync and go with the phone.

Bueller?
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