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#21 Simon Tan

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 1859 PM

Looks like another half assed move to make Maduro quit. There is nothing in hand to support this externally and it is not possible internally alone. The locker is empty as far as the Americas go. Squandered in far away campaigns.
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#22 Roman Alymov

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Posted 25 January 2019 - 0030 AM

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Strange to see usual Eastern Europe US cheer team of Poland&Co not rushing to support antiMaduro....


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Posted 25 January 2019 - 0154 AM

You fight the wars you have to. Not the ones your bosses want. I wonder how much of this is to spite Orangeman. The Venezuelans are irrelevant. Ants in a struggle of behemoths. Venezuela is like KsA but with hotter wimminz.
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Posted 25 January 2019 - 0323 AM

Strange to see usual Eastern Europe US cheer team of Poland&Co not rushing to support antiMaduro....

 

The Polish government is probably quiet because EU president Donald Tusk has spoken out most clearly in support of Guaidó within the Union, and PiS head Jaroslaw Kaczyński wouldn't agree with his old nemesis even if the latter condemned both Hitler and Stalin for invading Poland in 1939. :D


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Posted 25 January 2019 - 0331 AM

Former Spanish PM, Aznar, stated that in South America related issues, the EU usually takes advice from Spain.

Well, the current Spanish government is supported by a radical left party that is very Maduro-friendly, so it has not recognized the new Venezuelan president.

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Posted 25 January 2019 - 0645 AM

Former Spanish PM, Aznar, stated that in South America related issues, the EU usually takes advice from Spain.

Well, the current Spanish government is supported by a radical left party that is very Maduro-friendly, so it has not recognized the new Venezuelan president.

By the same token has not yet formally endorsed the newly "reelected" Maduro.


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Posted 25 January 2019 - 0706 AM

Former Spanish PM, Aznar, stated that in South America related issues, the EU usually takes advice from Spain.

Well, the current Spanish government is supported by a radical left party that is very Maduro-friendly, so it has not recognized the new Venezuelan president.

By the same token has not yet formally endorsed the newly "reelected" Maduro.


I do not know. Care to provide some source?
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#28 Roman Alymov

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Posted 25 January 2019 - 0835 AM

Another version of support map

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Posted 25 January 2019 - 0906 AM

That looks more precise. The EU has so far called for free and fair elections, which is pretty much supporting Guaidó's position, but stopping short of recognizing him as legitimate interim president; most members have basically stated "yeah, what she said", though the German government for example has indicated that they might recognize Guaidó if elections don't come about pronto.
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Posted 25 January 2019 - 1325 PM

Maduro hires Russian mercs; Guaido rejects 'fake dialog'. I think things are going to get kinetic in the next week or two.


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Posted 25 January 2019 - 1355 PM

Interesting is that according to the map above Western Sahara finally got its independence from Morocco and is making its own foreign policy by 'tacitly' supporting Maduro.


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Posted 25 January 2019 - 1403 PM

Interesting is that according to the map above Western Sahara finally got its independence from Morocco and is making its own foreign policy by 'tacitly' supporting Maduro.

Nothing is perfect: according to this map, Crimea is not Russia.


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Posted 25 January 2019 - 1416 PM

Maduro hires Russian mercs; Guaido rejects 'fake dialog'. I think things are going to get kinetic in the next week or two.

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Posted 25 January 2019 - 1501 PM

India and Indians appear to be heavily invested in Venezuela's energy sector and would be at the economic mercy of decisions made by a new Venezuelan regime seeking to make agreements with Maduro's signature worthless.

 

Combined with India and Indians continuing to be one of the largest purchasers of Venezuelan crude and their continuing to be the largest importer of Venezuelan oil in Asia, and the reasons why on Earth the world's largest democracy would continue to trade with Venezuela and continue to recognize Maduro become more clear in various ways.


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Posted 25 January 2019 - 1601 PM

I'm ildly wondering what Russia or China could do beyond words to prop up Maduro á la Assad, in a purely technical way;

 

Ah.

 

Russian mercenaries reportedly in Venezuela to protect Maduro

 

Contractors linked to the Wagner group, which has carried out missions in Ukraine and Syria, reportedly travelled to Venezuela

 

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Russian private security contractors have travelled to Venezuela to provide security to the embattled president Nicolás Maduro, the Reuters news agency has reported.

 

Citing three sources, the news agency said that the mercenaries are linked to the Wagner group, which has carried out missions in Ukraine and Syria and is now reportedly active in countries in Africa, too.

 

If it is confirmed that contractors from the group traveled to Venezuela, this would be their first known deployment in the western hemisphere.

 

“The order came down on Monday to form a group to go to Venezuela. They are there to protect those at the highest levels of the government,” Yevgeny Shabaev, a Cossack leader with ties to military contractors, told the Guardian by telephone.

 

Shabaev, one of the sources cited by Reuters, is a campaigner for the rights of veterans, a group that overlaps heavily with those who join mercenary groups in Russia. He said he had been told about the trip by the relatives of the military contractors. A government spokesman did not immediately respond for comment about the report, although he had earlier told Reuters that the Kremlin had “no such information”.

 

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Posted 25 January 2019 - 1636 PM

Interesting is that according to the map above Western Sahara finally got its independence from Morocco and is making its own foreign policy by 'tacitly' supporting Maduro.

Nothing is perfect: according to this map, Crimea is not Russia.

That comment made my day! :)
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Posted 25 January 2019 - 1703 PM

Interesting is that according to the map above Western Sahara finally got its independence from Morocco and is making its own foreign policy by 'tacitly' supporting Maduro.

Nothing is perfect: according to this map, Crimea is not Russia.


That comment made my day! :)


Thus started the painful trip of Roman to Northern Siberia...
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#38 Simon Tan

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Posted 25 January 2019 - 2011 PM

Tyumen is best city to live in Putinland. The Rus have learned that PMCs are both useful and lucrative.
The problem with the opposition is that they are fragmented. This is Madurexit.
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#39 Roman Alymov

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Posted 26 January 2019 - 0259 AM

 

 

 

Interesting is that according to the map above Western Sahara finally got its independence from Morocco and is making its own foreign policy by 'tacitly' supporting Maduro.

Nothing is perfect: according to this map, Crimea is not Russia.

 


That comment made my day! :)

 


Thus started the painful trip of Roman to Northern Siberia...

 

Taking into account Earth is flat and rectangular according to this map, its failure to correctly represent borders of Russia is minor problem :) By the way Siberia is usually divided into Eastern and Western parts, not South and North :)


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#40 Roman Alymov

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Posted 26 January 2019 - 0308 AM

Tyumen is best city to live in Putinland. The Rus have learned that PMCs are both useful and lucrative.
 

What is PMCs?

 

 

The problem with the opposition is that they are fragmented. This is Madurexit.

  Maidan was also fragmened. Who cares, when US Embassy stepping in  - hardly any Gov could resist.


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