
Photography
#1
Posted 30 August 2004 - 1121 AM
This camera is superb. I will have to scan photos and show you all some of my stuff.
I want to do sports photography, especially with rugby and football (gridiron, that is) season starting up.
Any other photo buffs here?
Peace,
MCab
#2
Guest_Murph_*
Posted 30 August 2004 - 1236 PM
2 1/2 TLR- Great camera, no light meter, twin lens, very basic, learned my photography on this type of camera. 6x6 cm negatives.
4x5 View Camera w/ 210mm Schneider lens in Copal shutter.- you know film holders, a focusing cloth to cover your head, no light meter, manual shutter. Photography at its finest. The big 4x5 inch negative is awe inspiring. 4x5 Slides must be seen to be appreciated.
Kodak 4.0 megapixel digital- a nice toy.
Black and White 85% of the time, either Agfapan 25, or Kodak Tech Pan (ASA/ISO 25) with some ISO 100 speed Kodak or Agfa film. I like Agfa films and photo papers very much.
Get an old camera like a TLR (Shutterbug has them for sale in the back), and learn on it with no light meter, just guesstimates, you learn well. Also get some books on the "Zone" system as developed and perfected by Ansel Adams. They are invaluable tools.
Murph, who's first hobby was, and most favorite still is photography.
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#3
Posted 30 August 2004 - 1806 PM
#4
Posted 30 August 2004 - 2030 PM
I have an old T-70 sitting in my closet, haven't used it for years. Exposures started going screwy on me, the internal lightmeter is probably shot. The T-70 had a reputation for randomly exploding, the rumor I heard was that if you sent one in for factory service Canon wouldn't give it back to you.
I've gone digital, Nikon Coolpix 900, and starting to look at the kilobuck prosumer digital SLRs with Old Testament levels of coveting.
#5
Posted 30 August 2004 - 2116 PM
There are literally dozens of books on how to do sports photography, read them and see what the "pros" are doing. When you go out, take a little notebook, and write down what you are doing, (speed, asa, f-stop and so on) and then see what works for you and the camera.
I use my decades old Canon AE-1 and A-1 and they still do great, but like guns, there are always reasons to buy a new camera, lenses or filters.
#6
Posted 30 August 2004 - 2148 PM
#7
Posted 30 August 2004 - 2352 PM
Thought about going digital, decided that I could do about as well for less cost by taking my shots to Wal-Mart, having them put on disc, then using a photo-manip utility as necessary. Not bad-mouthing digital cameras, eventually I'll be forced to buy one when technological capacity overtakes expediency/cost-efficiency.
Shot
#8
Guest_Murph_*
Posted 31 August 2004 - 0129 AM
Ansel Adams
Paul Caponigro
Edward Weston
Elliot Porter
John Sexton
Wonderful artists. F/64 and shoot! I always go for the highest depth of field I can get. My view camera lens does f/64 and thats what I use.
A Buddy in Seminary just got his 8x10 view camera, having traded his 5x7 for it. He kept his 5x7 reducing back, and I am looking forward to his 8x10 negatives and slides!
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#9
Posted 31 August 2004 - 0225 AM

#10
Posted 31 August 2004 - 0239 AM
Now I'm also using a Nikon 4300 digital. It's a nice little camera. Belive it or not, 4x6" photos from the digital look better than film. I use a local minilab with a Fuji Frontier printer.
Next step will be a DSLR- someday. For regular photography I can't wait. But underwater is a different issue. The cost for a new housing, ports and digital-compatible strobes is astronomical.
#11
Posted 31 August 2004 - 0308 AM
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Edit: ImageShack has these zoomed WAY in. Annoying.
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#12
Guest_Murph_*
Posted 31 August 2004 - 0506 AM
What I want: [url="http://"http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/cameras/proSLR/proSLRIndex.jhtml?id=0.1.18.18.3.16&lc=en"]http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professiona...8.18.3.16&lc=en[/url]
#13
Posted 31 August 2004 - 0527 AM
#14
Guest_Murph_*
Posted 31 August 2004 - 0625 AM
Originally posted by DesertEagle:
Murph, wait a couple of months. Nikon is said to be coming out with a 15MP camera tht will have less noise. The Kodak is actually built on a Sigma body.
#15
Posted 01 September 2004 - 0340 AM

I generally use Kodak processing to get them turned into digital photos and have been very pleased with the resolution of the resultant images. I was less than impressed with Wal-Mart's ability to digitize the pictures. I prefer the film format as I simply like having the actual pictures on good-quality paper. I don't currently own a computer, so that obviously makes digital photos difficult to view while I am not at work, and it is much easier to whip out a photo album than boot up a computer. Obviously, the purchase of good paper and a photo quality printer would provide the same benefits, but hey, that requires effort.

At the rate I take pictures though, I ought to look into getting one of those automatic film processing machines like they use at the 1-hour shops

One of these would work for putzing around with existing negatives: [url="http://"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29993&item=3837338636&rd=1"]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...3837338636&rd=1[/url]
So many moneysinks, so little money... And time... And willpower...

Douglas
#16
Posted 01 September 2004 - 0456 AM
I think that 10x optical zoom is going to be difficult to hand hold without optical stablization. have you looked at similiar Olympus and Canon models with OS?
Originally posted by Murph:
http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jht...pq-locale=en_US What I will probably get RSN
What I want: http://www.kodak.com...ts/cameras/proS LR/proSLRIndex.jhtml?id=0.1.18.18.3.16&lc=en://http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof...8.18.3.16&lc=en://http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof...8.18.3.16&lc=en://http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof...8.18.3.16&lc=en://http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof...8.18.3.16&lc=en://http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof...8.18.3.16&lc=en://http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof...8.18.3.16&lc=en://http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof...8.18.3.16&lc=en://http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof...8.18.3.16&lc=en://http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof...8.18.3.16&lc=en://http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof...8.18.3.16&lc=en
#17
Guest_Murph_*
Posted 01 September 2004 - 0504 AM
Originally posted by whyhow:
hi Murph,
I think that 10x optical zoom is going to be difficult to hand hold without optical stablization. have you looked at similiar Olympus and Canon models with OS?
#18
Posted 01 September 2004 - 0507 AM
many MF gears could be brought for a song these days because the pros are switching to digital.
and let's not forget the Russian rangefinders in classic Contax and Leica Thread Mount. a Kiev 4 (copy of classic Contax) goes for around $40 on ebay, and additional lens for around the same price. the optic quality of those classic lens can still rival the best high priced modern lens, and the fun/price ratio is unmatched.
#19
Guest_Murph_*
Posted 01 September 2004 - 0602 AM
Originally posted by whyhow:
until the price of digital SLR with full frame CCD/CMOS chip come down. budget minded amatures could have much more fun with older manual gears that are been unloaded on ebay these days.
many MF gears could be brought for a song these days because the pros are switching to digital.
and let's not forget the Russian rangefinders in classic Contax and Leica Thread Mount. a Kiev 4 (copy of classic Contax) goes for around $40 on ebay, and additional lens for around the same price. the optic quality of those classic lens can still rival the best high priced modern lens, and the fun/price ratio is unmatched.
#20
Posted 01 September 2004 - 1451 PM
do you do your own darkroom work? what are you experience with mail order labs?
Originally posted by Murph:
I had heard that the Russian stuff was a pretty good deal, I just haven't checked them out yet. I'd like to get a Russian camera in medium format, since I am getting away from 35mm and going to larger negatives. I'd love a good 6x7 cm camera, if I could find one cheap.