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#1 bojan

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 1753 PM

http://www.b92.net/e...27&nav_id=93932

Shooter entered police station in Zvornik, killed one policemen and wounded two other.

 

After last week circus in Macedonia

http://www.b92.net/e...22&nav_id=93874I don't like this at all...


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Posted 28 April 2015 - 0316 AM

Not to mention the Serbs joining the Orthodox Russians in East Ukraine, Croats joining the Catholics in the west, and substantial number of Moslems from all over the Balkan joining IS.  (source: The Economist)


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Posted 28 April 2015 - 0537 AM

Diplomatic solutions were made hastily and badly to end the wars in Ex-Yugoslavia as soon as possible, and often imposed upon signatories. Consequence was that plenty of old issues were not resolved but just put under the carpet. Or often (ab)used by politicians to gain political points and took attention from more important economic problems or their own faults..

 

Unless concentrated effort is made to solve them (and there are precedents in world) all those issues are going to resurface eventually. 


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Posted 28 April 2015 - 0611 AM

Not to mention the Serbs joining the Orthodox Russians in East Ukraine, Croats joining the Catholics in the west, and substantial number of Moslems from all over the Balkan joining IS.  (source: The Economist)

 

As long they go somewhere else to die I don't GaF, problem is that they are gonna return. 1st two groups might not have itching for terrorist action on home turf, but 3rd one is quite a problem. Village in Bosnia few months ago:

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BTW, as it shows that madness knows no bounds, there are Croats on Pro-Rus and Serbs on Pro-Ukr side also.


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Posted 28 April 2015 - 0649 AM

Polish nationalists are also on both sides, apparently.


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Posted 28 April 2015 - 0651 AM

BTW, as it shows that madness knows no bounds, there are Croats on Pro-Rus and Serbs on Pro-Ukr side also.

Polish nationalists are also on both sides, apparently.

(sarcasm mode on)

Why does all of this sound so oddly familiar......packs bag...sigh.

(sarcasm mode off)


Edited by Sikkiyn, 28 April 2015 - 0652 AM.

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Posted 28 April 2015 - 1851 PM

Diplomatic solutions were made hastily and badly to end the wars in Ex-Yugoslavia as soon as possible, and often imposed upon signatories. Consequence was that plenty of old issues were not resolved but just put under the carpet. Or often (ab)used by politicians to gain political points and took attention from more important economic problems or their own faults..

 

Unless concentrated effort is made to solve them (and there are precedents in world) all those issues are going to resurface eventually. 

 

I don't think it was possible to resolve them then and I don't think it's possible now.


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Posted 05 May 2015 - 1903 PM

Guess it will be long, hot summer...

http://www.b92.net/e...05&nav_id=94016


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Posted 06 May 2015 - 1214 PM

And a long hot summer in Macedonia...

http://www.b92.net/e...06&nav_id=94020


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Posted 09 May 2015 - 0630 AM

Kumanovo, Macedonia, today.

3 policemen KIA, 12 wounded, fighting still going on. Estimates say about about 50-70 terrorists.

So who is now oppressing poor innocent Albanians?


Edited by bojan, 09 May 2015 - 0638 AM.

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Posted 09 May 2015 - 0711 AM

Crazy! Is it still ongoing?
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Posted 09 May 2015 - 0831 AM

News what initially happened are scarce, but it looks like police had information about large gathering of armed people (which fitted with information they had that armed group from Kosovo crossed border) , tried to investigate/arrest them and was fired upon.

Still ongoing.


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Posted 09 May 2015 - 0834 AM

Sounds like the police have them under siege now.


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Posted 09 May 2015 - 0922 AM

From local source...

One of the groups is headed by Mirsad Ndrecaj, known as Commander NATO with the Kosovo Liberation Army, and Bek Rizvaj, close associate of an influential person of the Democratic Union for Integration (DUI) party from Skopje. 
The group spent few days in Slupcane, trying to attract the local residents on their side. The sources  claimed that the local residents showed no interest in the offer. 
The second group is headed by Sabit Geci from Kosovo’s Drenica, who according to unofficial information is in prison in Pristina and is loyal to Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs Hashim Thaci. 
The groups of Geci and Commander NATO have been in Kumanovo for few days, while those, who ordered the actions, are from Macedonia.

 


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Posted 09 May 2015 - 1536 PM

Current count is 3 police officers killed, around 20 injured and some reports says that 27 terrorists surrendered.
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Posted 09 May 2015 - 1812 PM

Some terrorists surrendered, but fighting is still going on.


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Posted 09 May 2015 - 1812 PM

Ugly stuff in the Balkans... again.


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Posted 09 May 2015 - 1836 PM

It is round two of 2001. conflict with Albanians in Macedonia. They got almost all they wanted back then, so now OFC they want more.


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Posted 09 May 2015 - 1843 PM

So this is a land grab attempt? Bizarre, amateurish and stupid if so.


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Posted 09 May 2015 - 1850 PM

It is an establishing of terrorist attack pattern that would lead to instability, intimidation of local Albanian inhabitants into cooperation, and potentially provoking Macedonian government to overplay their hand, in order to carve a piece of territory.

Worked before, why change it?

 

PS. Barely a month after Albanian prime minister talked about "One Albanian state where Albanians live". Color me not surprised.


Edited by bojan, 09 May 2015 - 2054 PM.

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