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#1 Dawes

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Posted 18 December 2019 - 1220 PM

Certainly not unique to the French military, but troubling nonetheless:

 

https://www.yahoo.co...-140019131.html


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#2 EchoFiveMike

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Posted 18 December 2019 - 1750 PM

Well, if they were FFL, they weren't actually French.  It's hardly surprising that ethnic loyalty trumps paper citizenship, to anyone who's not a blinkered idiot or gullible chump.  S/F....Ken M  


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#3 RETAC21

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Posted 19 December 2019 - 1432 PM

A bit of breathlessness there:

 

Islamist groups have recruited dozens of former French soldiers...

 

More than a third of the ex-servicemen are converts to Islam and nearly half served in elite Foreign Legion, parachute, commando or marine units 

 

The report, “Soldiers and Jihad”, profiles 23 ex-servicemen...

noted that about 30 former servicemen...

 

 

So this is, at most 2 dozzens, and at least 10 are converts and have nothing to do with ethnic loyalty, whatever that is, and about 12-15 were from elite units (not necessarily the FFL), on top of that, you have people from all walks of life:

 

Several former Legionnaires have been arrested over terrorist plots in France, and ex-paratroopers or commandos have become leaders of Isil combat units in Syria or Iraq.

Others who stayed in France...

Some of the ex-servicemen “became radicalised after they joined the French army, while others started becoming radicalised after they left the army,” the report said.

“However, some were planning to go and join jihadist groups before being recruited by the French armed forces.” 

Frédéric R., a former legionnaire in his sixties who converted to Islam...

 

 

So the news are that the French Army also has idiots serving in them.

 

 

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#4 Brian Kennedy

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Posted 19 December 2019 - 1454 PM

Still seems like a pretty large number of people proportionately, though? I guess they're closer geographically/culturally and whatnot, but if the US Army (vastly larger) had that many people going full ISIS that would be a pretty huge scandal.


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#5 Panzermann

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Posted 20 December 2019 - 0537 AM

Still seems like a pretty large number of people proportionately, though? I guess they're closer geographically/culturally and whatnot, but if the US Army (vastly larger) had that many people going full ISIS that would be a pretty huge scandal.

 

A lot of people from the MAghreb and other former colonies serve in the french forces so Islam is much more widespread than in the US Army for example. Thus jihad recruiters have a much bigger pool to fish in.


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#6 RETAC21

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Posted 20 December 2019 - 0626 AM

Still seems like a pretty large number of people proportionately, though? I guess they're closer geographically/culturally and whatnot, but if the US Army (vastly larger) had that many people going full ISIS that would be a pretty huge scandal.

 

French Army has around 130.000 effectives (active+reserve), add up those guys that left years ago (60 yo ex-Legionnaire) and we are easily talking 30 out of 250.000+ people, it's still a drop in the ocean.


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#7 R011

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Posted 20 December 2019 - 1213 PM

When did France stop conscription?
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#8 Panzermann

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Posted 20 December 2019 - 1327 PM

When did France stop conscription?

 

Suspended 2001. They still register all young men. Though I don't know if they still call them up for medical examination.


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Posted 20 December 2019 - 1426 PM

So there is a very large pool of people born between 1960 and 1982 and a smaller but still fairly large pool of people born between 1983 and 2000 from which we got under thirty terrorists. Probably not time to panic yet.
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