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#1 Mr King

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 0243 AM

Union standard bearer Alex Rogers of the 83rd Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry Regiment holding what is left of the standard after the Battle of Gettysburg 1883  

 

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Posted 16 November 2014 - 0246 AM

A Confederate field hospital in Petersburg Virginia that has been captured during the Siege of Petersburg June 15, 1864

 

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 0448 AM

Members of a engineering battalion near Petersburg, VA

 

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Posted 11 December 2014 - 1744 PM

Members of a engineering battalion near Petersburg, VA

 

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The guy in the middle back row, he lives.  He lives in every unit I've ever had the pleasure of serving, and I imagine he lives in all other units.


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Posted 13 December 2014 - 1300 PM

I was thinking he was the spitting image of a young Peter Falk. I can also see a demonic Buster Keaton.


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Posted 14 December 2014 - 2058 PM

Totally -- an aggro short guy, probably real mean and funny. Great picture.
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Posted 15 December 2014 - 1935 PM

I was thinking he was the spitting image of a young Peter Falk. I can also see a demonic Buster Keaton.

 

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 0256 AM

Union Soldier with a former slave.1863

 

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 0257 AM

Robert E. Lee on his horse Traveler 1866

 

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Posted 19 December 2014 - 2318 PM

I've spent an awful lot of time with my nose buried in Civil War books, and you've managed to find a couple of pictures that I hadn't seen before. Good finds.

 

I agree on "the forever soldier" in the picture of the engineers. One of him was in my basic training company.


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Posted 20 December 2014 - 2308 PM

My pleasure Michael. 

 

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 0139 AM

My pleasure Michael. 

 

Confederate troops 1862

 

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This is, reputedly, the only photo extant of Confederate troops on the march, during a campaign. As you can see, they are fairly individualistic in appearance. The hats are pretty much free-style. I can only discern a couple of the forage caps/kepis which just about every Hollywood Confederate is equipped with, and there are many variants of slouch hats evident. Most of the men in the two ( I am presuming ) companies closest to the camera are carrying their muskets at "right shoulder shift", which, I can attest, is the most comfortable way to carry them long-distance.  Companies tended to be well below their authorized strength, especially so in many of the Army of N. Virginia's brigades, which had seen a lot of action, and not many replacements.

 

There does look like there might be some degree of uniformity, at least regarding the jackets. The lead company, or companies, seem to have darker uniform jackets than the ones closer to the camera. IIRC, this picture was taken during the Antietam-Sharpsburg campaign, somewhere in Maryland, prior to the battle. At least, that's what one of my sources said. Col. Lindquist might have better information, although I believe that he was still at VMI during this part of the war.  ;)


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Posted 22 December 2014 - 1141 AM

 

My pleasure Michael. 

 

Confederate troops 1862

 

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This is, reputedly, the only photo extant of Confederate troops on the march, during a campaign. As you can see, they are fairly individualistic in appearance. The hats are pretty much free-style. I can only discern a couple of the forage caps/kepis which just about every Hollywood Confederate is equipped with, and there are many variants of slouch hats evident. Most of the men in the two ( I am presuming ) companies closest to the camera are carrying their muskets at "right shoulder shift", which, I can attest, is the most comfortable way to carry them long-distance.  Companies tended to be well below their authorized strength, especially so in many of the Army of N. Virginia's brigades, which had seen a lot of action, and not many replacements.

 

There does look like there might be some degree of uniformity, at least regarding the jackets. The lead company, or companies, seem to have darker uniform jackets than the ones closer to the camera. IIRC, this picture was taken during the Antietam-Sharpsburg campaign, somewhere in Maryland, prior to the battle. At least, that's what one of my sources said. Col. Lindquist might have better information, although I believe that he was still at VMI during this part of the war.  ;)

 

 

Corner of Market and Patrick Streets in Fredneck (Frederick), Maryland.

 

Ironic that they think it was taken from the building which now houses the Museum of Civil War medicine.  Some troops on that march literally went through what is now my aunt's and uncle's backyard before they crossed the Potomac. Alas, no relics ever found.


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Posted 05 January 2015 - 0057 AM

Confederate private Henry Moore 1861

 

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Posted 05 January 2015 - 0106 AM

John Brown holding the flag of the Subterranean Pass - Way, an armed sister organization to the Underground Railroad 1846

 

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 1952 PM

Confederate private Henry Moore 1861

 

Looks like he's part of a Roman legion with that gladius.


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Posted 07 January 2015 - 0236 AM

Wedding photograph of Jefferson Davis and his wife Varina Howell. 1845

 

Supposedly his wife is of Welsh ancestry. I will admit not being very familiar with Wales, but is it common for the Welsh people to have such prominent African facial features?  She looks like any number of white / black mixed race girls I went to school with. 

 

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Varina_Davis

 

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 0352 AM

Wedding photograph of Jefferson Davis and his wife Varina Howell. 1845

 

Supposedly his wife is of Welsh ancestry. I will admit not being very familiar with Wales, but is it common for the Welsh people to have such prominent African facial features?  She looks like any number of white / black mixed race girls I went to school with. 

 

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Varina_Davis

 

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 0357 AM

Private Henry Moore seem to have a belt buckle with the letters US on. Did he perhaps wear it with his confederate uniform because it was the only belt he owned?


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Posted 11 January 2015 - 0029 AM

 

Confederate private Henry Moore 1861

 

Looks like he's part of a Roman legion with that gladius.

 

Not a gladius, as such, but a US artillery short sword.

 

Wendist, Confederate troops often used US equipment of all sorts. Generally, however, if a US belt buckle was worn, it was worn upside down.

 

If anyone is interested, that image taken very early in the war ( obviously; 1861 ) , when most Confederates were using whatever they had captured from US armouries, which were all over the country, to service both the regular Army and the state militias. Initially, many units on both sides turned out in grey uniforms, since grey had been the designated colour for militia units, in most cases. This soldier's shell jacket is of a type that stayed in service throughout the war, but the extra trim, most likely for a local militia company, disappeared from most CS garments fairly quickly, due to scarcity of material, and the need for larger than expected quantities of such garments. True uniformity took a while to get going on both sides, with the south lagging behind because of shortages of all sorts. Depending on the state from which the unit came, and what theatre of the war that they served in, some Confederate units never really achieved uniformity to the same extent as the Union did, and some units with specialised uniforms ( e.g., Zouaves ) retained them throughout the war, although most eventually ended up in more drab uniforms as the cost and impracticality of gaudy dress became more apparent.


Edited by Michael Eastes, 11 January 2015 - 0034 AM.
Stating the obvious.

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