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Posted 06 March 2005 - 1650 PM

None of which have an audience. To make a movie, you have to have at least half a chance of realizing a return on investment. Heck, half of the subjects I mentioned are marginal in that regard, yet all of them have much wider potential audience interest than anything in the above paragraph. Not trying to make it personal -- just pointing out the facts.


Unfortunately, I agree. Sometimes a good story can carry a film to success, but usually, it requires some other hook, & neither of those, though possessed of huge cinematic potential, has that hook outside the countries directly involved. A pity. However, I think there are other WW1 films which might have a chance of commercial success. Lettow-Vorbecks campaigns?

Don't worry, I didn't take your post as personal.
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Posted 07 March 2005 - 0107 AM

Lettow-Vorbecks campaigns?

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Let's see...to be factually correct, the Germans would have to be portrayed as the most enlightened of colonialists -- strange, but true -- while the black Africans involved would have to be pro-colonialism because of all the advancements and opportunities that contact with the Germans brought them -- even stranger seeming, but again true. The Evil Empire would be the British. That would never sell in a million years.
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Posted 08 March 2005 - 1353 PM

Let's see...to be factually correct, the Germans would have to be portrayed as the most enlightened of colonialists -- strange, but true -- while the black Africans involved would have to be pro-colonialism because of all the advancements and opportunities that contact with the Germans brought them -- even stranger seeming, but again true. The Evil Empire would be the British. That would never sell in a million years.



Life's a bitch, eh? But I'm not so sure British as bad guys wouldn't sell. Plenty of Hollywood casting of British as baddies.

What about this for a film? The life & campaigns of James Brooke, Rajah of Sarawak. High adventure, exotic scenery, intrigues, & battles galore. British as enlightened colonialists, suppressing piracy & slavery, but always keeping a close eye on the profits.
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Posted 08 March 2005 - 1444 PM

Been done once but the defence of Hill 235 by the Gloucestershire Regiment has been described as being among the most extraordinary defensive actions of all time.

http://members.tripo...ters/Imjin.html

I'm a bit biased though as I'm from Gloucestershire.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049302/

Not a great movie despite the stalwart cast, the story deserves better treatment.
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Posted 08 March 2005 - 1449 PM

Life's a bitch, eh? But I'm not so sure British as bad guys wouldn't sell. Plenty of Hollywood casting of British as baddies.

What about this for a film? The life & campaigns of James Brooke, Rajah of Sarawak. High adventure, exotic scenery, intrigues, & battles galore. British as enlightened colonialists, suppressing piracy & slavery, but always keeping a close eye on the profits.

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I doubt they could find a writer/director who would stick to the facts, nor anyone besides us who would believe them if they did.
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Posted 08 March 2005 - 1647 PM

I doubt they could find a writer/director who would stick to the facts, nor anyone besides us who would believe them if they did.

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Well, in the case of Brook, there wouldn't be any need for love scenes. ;) Which means Hollywood would find it very difficult to handle as a subject. Of course, they could go for the inrequited love angle, I suppose.
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Posted 08 March 2005 - 1733 PM

Well, in the case of Brook, there wouldn't be any need for love scenes. ;) Which means Hollywood would find it very difficult to handle as a subject.  Of course, they could go for the inrequited love angle, I suppose.

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Yeah, him and his millionairess girlfriend mooning at each other.... :unsure:
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Posted 08 March 2005 - 1824 PM

Well, in the case of Brook, there wouldn't be any need for love scenes. ;) Which means Hollywood would find it very difficult to handle as a subject.  Of course, they could go for the inrequited love angle, I suppose.


There are those in Hollywood who'd prefer the version in which the injury was a convenient cover for a taste for boys, which is the story an author called Cassandra Pybus (Australian) based a book on. And there's another story, of a liaison with a servant girl in England resulting in an illegitimate son (Pybus says he was a boyfriend who Brooke decided to pretend was his son).

I reckon you could make a very good film of Brooke. Or some very bad ones :( . Persuading a film maker to stick to what's known would be hard, but there are all the necessary ingredients. Hmm . . who to cast in the lead? Have to be able to buckle a good swash (Brooke was famous for his bravery in battle), & do English & posh convincingly. And be charismatic enough that you can believe thousands of Malays & Iban will eagerly follow this mad foreigner into battle.

Suggestions, anyone?
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Posted 08 March 2005 - 1948 PM

One whom would be sure to get the sheilas in would be Colin Firth. My wife swoons over him everytime he walks onto the screen. Problem is, from my limited knowledge of Brook (from Flashman I have to admit but McDonald-Fraser is noted for his accuracy, if nothing else) Brook was relatively short, whereas Firth is bloody tall! Don't know if he can do anything other than his brooding Mr. Darcy though.

How about Richard E. Grant as an alternative? Another favourite of the ladyfolk around here and he was pretty good as the Scarlet Pimpernal. Another could what's his name, Grifford from Hornblower. Then there was Paul McGann. He was rather good in the Monocled Mutineer.

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Posted 08 March 2005 - 2023 PM

Vimy Ridge. But it can't be made by the National Film board, or they and the McKinna brothers will claim we lost.

Lots of fights, all the preparation and practice at a time when it was over the wires and run like hell at the other guys.




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