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#41 Panzermann

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 0653 AM

Well, all the Malaysians in DPRK get to enjoy it without end.


Malaysians in bestest Korea? Why are they there? The weather is rather shitty compared to tropical Malaysia.
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Posted 07 March 2017 - 0948 AM

Well, all the Malaysians in DPRK get to enjoy it without end.


Malaysians in bestest Korea? Why are they there? The weather is rather shitty compared to tropical Malaysia.

Embassy, UN program staff and their families.
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Posted 07 March 2017 - 1041 AM

Well, all the Malaysians in DPRK get to enjoy it without end.


Malaysia has now locked down all the DPRK citizens in their country...which has to be the most amazing thing that can happen in your life if your a north korean.
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Posted 07 March 2017 - 1044 AM

 

 

 

 

Well, Blah...

 

 

 

Forum software glitch?

 

 

Nope, a human relations glitch.


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 1048 AM

First stages of THAAD have arrived in South Korea.

 

In a surprise move, South Korea and the United States began deploying the highly controversial anti-missile system here, just hours after North Korea test-fired ballistic missiles that it said were aimed at US bases in Japan.

The allies confirmed Tuesday that two launchers of the US’ Terminal High Altitude Area Defense system arrived in South Korea’s Osan Air Base late Monday via the C-17 Globemaster III transport aircraft.

They are the first batch of the missile defense system designed to enhance the allies’ capabilities in countering North Korea’s growing missile threats. The deployment will be completed as early as next month, Seoul officials said.

“Continued provocative actions by North Korea, to include yesterday’s launch of multiple missiles, only confirm the prudence of our alliance decision last year to deploy THAAD to South Korea,” US Pacific Commander Adm. Harry Harris said in a statement.

Consisting of multiple launchers and an advanced radar, THAAD is intended to intercept short- and medium-range ballistic missiles at high altitudes. But its top-notch surveillance capability has unnerved China, which argues the system targets it.

Following the announcement, Beijing voiced its strong opposition to THAAD, warning Seoul and Washington will pay “consequences” for deploying the platform that would undermine its national security.

“We strongly oppose the decision to deploy THAAD and will take necessary steps to defend our security interest,” China’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang said. “South Korea and the US will bear the consequences. ... We urge them not to go further down that wrong path.”

Fearing that THAAD’s radar may spy deep into its territory, China has been stepping up its retaliatory measures against South Korea, most recently instructing the country’s travel agencies to stop selling tour packages.

Seoul‘s defense and ministries said they did not notify China of the development in advance, highlighting that it was “solely” for the defense of South Korea against the North‘s threats.

South Korea’s acting President Hwang Kyo-ahn and US president Donald Trump spoke on the phone early Tuesday, hours after the arrival of THAAD elements here. They shared the need to sternly deal with the North’s latest launch, casting it as “not only a breach of UN Security Council resolutions, but also a provocation against the international community,” Cheong Wa Dae said.

Trump also highlighted the need for closer bilateral cooperation in coping with North Korea’s military issues, including its missile and nuclear provocations, through in-depth discussions at future two-way high-level meetings.

The newly arrived launchers and other equipment have been transferred to a US military base for a temporary stay until being installed at its site in Seongju, North Gyeongsang Province, Seoul’s Defense Ministry said, declining to elaborate on its current location due to security concerns.

The move came as the allies are quickening the deployment process in part to minimize any potential setbacks due to political uncertainties in South Korea, which is expected to hold a presidential election within a few months. Seoul’s military acquired land to host the battery last month from Lotte Group and is now in consultations with the US Forces Korea over its handover.

But the ministry refused to provide a detailed deployment schedule and how many launchers will be stationed eventually, citing security concerns. A THAAD battery is comprised of six truck-mounted launchers, 48 interceptors, a fire control and communications unit and an AN/TPY-2 radar, but the one in the US’ Guam base has four launchers.

Ministry officials also ruled out the possibility for the new system would be employed during the joint annual military exercises. They have said the allies would apply an operational guideline to counter North Korea’s nuclear and missile facilities including the use of THAAD for the Key Resolve computer-simulated drills scheduled to kick off next week.

“The THAAD batteries did not come here to participate in the combined exercise,” said an official from the Combined Forces Command. “The deployment process has just begun.”

 

http://www.koreahera...=20170307001116

 


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 1139 AM

F-35Bs to participate in the current US-RoK annual joint exercise.

 

SEOUL, March 2 (Yonhap) -- The U.S. Air Force's F-35B stealth fighter will take part in the ongoing Foal Eagle joint exercise with South Korea to hone its precision strike capabilities, military officials familiar with the matter said Thursday.

The F-35B Lightening II fighter is expected to carry out ground attack maneuvers during the two-month-long exercise between Seoul and Washington, the officials told Yonhap News Agency asking not to be identified.

"The addition of the F-35B is meant to deliver a strong message to the North that they could be used against the rogue state in case of a conflict breaking out on the Korean Peninsula," an official said.

The first F-35B squadron was deployed to Iwakuni, Japan, in January amid growing nuclear and missile threats posed by North Korea.

The F-35B -- which is capable of short takeoffs and vertical landings -- is regarded by the military as a strategic asset that can be employed to hit well defended key targets in North Korea.

The stealth fighter can reach speeds of up to Mach 1.6 and has a radar system that is capable of detecting a target up to 500 kilometers away.

 

http://english.yonha...2004900315.html


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 1224 PM

Considering how many short range ballistic missiles the Norks have, would I be correct in assuming a single THAAD battery is a feel good measure intended to stick a thumb in China's eye? I guess the radar is at least still good for early warning regardless.
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Posted 07 March 2017 - 1230 PM

Perhaps. But China has been incrementally increasing economic punishment on South Korea. A drastic increase in THAAD might be met with a drastic economic hit to South Korea, in which case, might raise anti-THAAD sentiment beyond tolerable levels. South Korea needs some time to diversify their exports a little more.
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Posted 07 March 2017 - 1252 PM

Considering how many short range ballistic missiles the Norks have, would I be correct in assuming a single THAAD battery is a feel good measure intended to stick a thumb in China's eye? I guess the radar is at least still good for early warning regardless.


I'm guessing it's supposed to be used only against rockets equipped with WMD payloads. Other intelligence sources would have to pinpoint which ones those are.
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Posted 07 March 2017 - 1348 PM

Well I suppose it could be limited to larger contacts/faster ascent times to narrow down rockets with larger throw weights. I'm not familiar enough with DPRKs arsenal to know what the likely target set would be. Clearly any rocket could reach Seoul, even just 122mm with some sarin on it.
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Posted 08 March 2017 - 0210 AM

Well, Blah blah blah Blah blah blah and Blah blah blah


Calling the removed Dem ex-governor of Illinois here is quite a threadjack.
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Posted 08 March 2017 - 0459 AM

Well, Blah blah blah Blah blah blah and Blah blah blah

Calling the removed Dem ex-governor of Illinois here is quite a threadjack.

Classic TN threadjack style that is indifferent to a nation's image appeal, and, is random such as the injection Blagojevich into the thread was still fair game I thought. Just like how English is a neutral language in multi-lingual countries like the Philippines, American matters are also quite often neutral. But well traditions die with time.

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 1723 PM

Memento homo quia pulvis es.
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Posted 08 March 2017 - 1905 PM

Can't think of anyone they'd aim at West. China is North, ROC is South, everyone else is East. Pretty much everyone is in easy range of practically any ballistic missile except the Running Dogs themselves, so I agree with the California comment.

 

Beijing is 700 km west of NK.

A nuclear-tipped MRBM would be a useful threat if the Chinese ever demands that the tyrant dynasty goes into exile...or refuses to deliver rice.


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Posted 17 March 2017 - 2314 PM

Just like Mattis, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson made his first trip abroad to East Asia. But unlike Mattis, who went to both Japan and South Korea, Tillerson is including China in the trip.
 
First he went to Japan speaking of a new approach towards North Korea. Then on his next stop in South Korea, he says the past 20 years have failed to stop North Korea, strategic patience is over, all cards are on the table.

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http://asia.nikkei.c...th-Korea-threat
 
Spoiler
http://www.koreahera...=20170317000859
 
 
So now he has arrived in China a few hours ago.
 
 
While the above visits and the deployment of THAAD are going on, the US and ROK have started their annual joint-training called Foal Eagle, which is at a massive level this time around.
Spoiler
http://www.reuters.c...s-idUSKBN1683HQ

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https://www.youtube....h?v=OVoIE_7L7FM
 
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https://www.youtube....h?v=ldgxpnbfBhE
 
China is saying that the US-RoK joint training and the North Korean tests should both be stopped and everyone should get together again for talks. The US and RoK rejected the proposal. And the US tells China to refrain from economically punishing South Korea.
Spoiler
http://www.straitsti...oach-to-n-korea
 
A retired PLA general says the PLA can neutralize THAAD.
Spoiler
http://www.scmp.com/...missile-defence
 
Furthermore, the USN, ROKN, and JMSDF carried out Aegis destroyer missile defense joint-training. And the US Navy SEAL unit that killed Osama Bin Laden is participated in the large scale training with ROK, as well as other US special force units.
Spoiler
http://www.maritime-...c-missile-drill


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Posted 18 March 2017 - 0746 AM

Kim doesn't strike me as a Middle East cowardly dictator type.  He strikes me more as a double-tap SS style in the Bunker in the ruins of his capital type.  China has a decision to make - either stall for time by going along with Washington, or send an expeditionary force to North Korea.  Given the weakness of the Chinese regime the latter option seems premature.


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 0158 AM

Tillerson has "warm words" with Xi.

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http://www.reuters.c...a-idUSKBN16Q038

 

Before the meeting with Tillerson and Xi, Tillerson meet with China's foreign Minister Wang and an impression of cooperation seems to be generated over their evident different views. If I find a longer or full version, I'll put it up, but for now, this is all I can find.

 

Tillerson: "...and we view that there are a number of steps that we can take that are in front of us. And foreign minster Wang has agreed that we will work together to see if we can not bring the government in Pyongyang to a place where they want to make a different course and move away from their development of their nuclear weapons. But it is with a certain sense of urgency that we both feel because of the current situation that we have on the peninsula. Let me in close, our two countries should have a positive..."

 

Wang "I want to remind you of, As the UN Security Council resolutions concerning DPRK have imposed a series of increasingly tougher sanctions on the country. China has stressed or reiterated in clear terms that the parties concerned concerned should resume dialogues and negotiations, maintain the stability of the Korean Peninsula, and avoid aggregating the situation. Therefore, it is the obligation for all of the relevant parties to carry out the sanctions, and it is also their responsibility to restart dialogue. The current situation is simply caused by the suspension of talks, which made political diplomacy impossible. The situation on the Peninsula has come to a new crossroad where we see either situation worsened and lead to conflicts, or we find a breakthrough and return to the track of dialogue while in the process of strictly implementing UN Security Council resolutions. We hope that all parties, including our American friends, could be cool headed and make wise choices."

 

 

In any case, North Korea just tested a new rocket engine.

 

SEOUL: North Korea has tested a new high-performance rocket engine, the country's state media said Sunday.

Overseeing the test, leader Kim Jong-Un "emphasised that the whole world will soon witness what eventful significance the great victory won today carries", KCNA reported, hinting that the North is preparing to launch a new satellite rocket.

"The development and completion of a new-type high-thrust engine would help consolidate the scientific and technological foundation to match the world-level satellite delivery capability in the field of outer space development, he noted", KCNA said.

Rocket engines are easily re-purposed for use in missiles.

Outside observers say that the nuclear-armed Pyongyang's space programme is a fig leaf for weapons tests.

The new US Secretary of State Tillerson arrived in Beijing Saturday after visits to US allies Japan and South Korea where he said the US would no longer observe the "failed" approach of patient diplomacy with Pyongyang, warning that American military action against the North was an option "on the table".

The tougher US talk followed two North Korean nuclear tests last year and recent missile launches that Pyongyang described as practice for an attack on US bases in Japan. -- AFP

 

http://www.nst.com.m...ket-engine-kcna


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 1025 AM

Kim doesn't strike me as a Middle East cowardly dictator type.  He strikes me more as a double-tap SS style in the Bunker in the ruins of his capital type.  China has a decision to make - either stall for time by going along with Washington, or send an expeditionary force to North Korea.  Given the weakness of the Chinese regime the latter option seems premature.

 

In the meantime, if their support for Jae Moon is any indication, South Koreans appear ready for the Sunshine Policy Part 2.

 

Now, after being out of power for almost 10 years, the South Korean liberal opposition is on the verge of retaking the presidency with the historic court ruling on Friday that ousted its conservative enemy, President Park Geun-hye, who had been impeached in a corruption scandal.

 

The liberals’ presidential hopeful, Moon Jae-in, wants a profound change in the country’s tense relations with North Korea, pushing outreach and dialogue. He also is deeply skeptical of the hawkish stance embraced by the conservatives and South Korea’s most important defender, the United States.

 

But he also said in a recently published book that South Korea should learn to “say no to the Americans."

 

Jae has apparently read Ishihara S, Morita A. The Japan That Can Say No: Why Japan Will Be First Among Equals. Whether Ishihara and Morita's arguments are backwards-applicable to Korea and Koreanese remains to be seen.


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 1310 PM

Kim doesn't strike me as a Middle East cowardly dictator type.

Following test of new rocket engine

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 1413 PM

An interesting South Korean opinion poll about THAAD and country favorability. US lost a bit of ground. Japan is still disliked throughout the months, but at least doing better than the Norks. China's economic retaliation cost it big points, putting it below even Japan for the first time in a long time. The US of course wants to see trilateral defense relations between the US-ROK-JPN, but at minimum, so long as the US and ROK stick together, then good enough. Support for THAAD is a little shaky but hanging on there.

 

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The whole survey is interesting. Link below.

http://en.asaninst.o...ates-and-china/


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