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[Jim Warford]

Here are a few for starters:

1) Arjun's 120mm APFSDS round



2) Indian 125mm rounds



3) Polish 125mm APFSDS

[Davin]

Nice photos!
The Polish 125mm APFSDS round seems a new round.
It didn't looks like original Russian 125mm rounds.
Is it indigenous or cooperation?

[Panzermann]

2) Indian 125mm rounds

http://img401.images...5mmammo13uz.jpg

Funny that a M1 and a M113 are on the Photo in the background, as neither uses such ammo.

[Harkonnen]

Funny that a M1  and a M113 are on the Photo in the background, as neither uses such ammo. 

The ammo is designed to be used on them

[Davin]

The ammo is designed to be used on them

[Przezdzieblo]

Nice photos!
The Polish 125mm APFSDS round seems a new round.
It didn't looks like original Russian 125mm rounds.
Is it indigenous or cooperation?

Because it is new one.


(that projectile on the left)



Developed by WITU, made by ZPS Pionki (former Pronit) with cooperation FPS Bolechowo. Data:
penetrator diameter: 25 mm
projectile mass: 7,6 kg
penetrator mass: 3,65 kg
muzzle velocity: 1650m/s
medium max. pressure of fumes *: about or less than 444 MPa
penetration at 2000 m: more than 500 mm RHAe

Previous round (at tankfan pages so called "Pronit APFSDS") probably used importet Israeli rods. But the new one is really new

[Davin]

The new round seems has a better penetration than Russian 3BM-32.
Its sabot shape looks specially,I like the style.

[Scott Cunningham]

Good looking HE round. Wonder why the US cant manage to make one.

[Jim Warford]

...two more rounds: the "Super 76" 76mm APFSDS version of the "Super 75" used by Taiwan for their M41Ds; and the US M900A1 APFSDS round.

[Kenneth P. Katz]

How is the M900A1 different from the M900?
When did the M900A1 enter service?
Is the M900 and M900A1 really able to be used by the older tanks? I thought it needs an improved gun to handle the high pressure, which was only fitted to some late model Abrams with the 105mm gun.

... the US M900A1 APFSDS round.

[Djuice]

Doesnt the penetator seem aint small?

[alfa]

This link lot of details about the Arjun Main Gun

http://www.drdo.com/...feb02/arjun.htm

[alfa]

This link lot of details about the Arjun Main Gun

http://www.drdo.com/...feb02/arjun.htm

Some more details about Arjun FSAPDS

Length 944 mm

Weight 20.2 kg

Propellant charge weight 8.3kg Type NQ/M

Projectile weight 6.8kg

MV 1650m/s

L/D Ratio 18

Slipping band to reduce spin

Claimed performance is ability to defeat single, double, triple heavy NATO standard target at 5000m

[Harkonnen]

105 mm ound - right, and a round unknown to me...

[wallaby bob]

...two more rounds: the "Super 76" 76mm APFSDS version of the "Super 75" used by Taiwan for their M41Ds; and the US M900A1 APFSDS round.

Whilst we're on Uranium sabotted penetrators I have a somewhat idle question. Do those nations which have a small OR non-existant nuclear industry save the expense of producing "depleted" uranium and simply produce rounds containing both U235 and U238? A lot of money saved and not a lot of extra radioactivity. WB

[Gorka L. Martinez-Mezo]

Speaking of tank ammo.....

I have just come to know the Spanish Army has decided on the Israeli IMI CL-3143 120mm APFSDS round versus the German DM53/63 series for the Leopardo 2E (and I suppose the Leopard 2A4 replacing the old DM23/DM33 currently in use).

Can anybody (Jim?) provide any info on this round? Looks like there aren`t lots of info available....

[Harkonnen]

Speaking of tank ammo.....

I have just come to know the Spanish Army has decided on the Israeli IMI CL-3143 120mm APFSDS round versus the German DM53/63 series for the Leopardo 2E (and I suppose the Leopard 2A4 replacing the old DM23/DM33 currently in use).

Can anybody (Jim?) provide any info on this round? Looks like there aren`t lots of info available....

Israeli 120 mm rounds for Mk3 Baz

Edited by Harkonnen, 30 October 2005 - 1539 PM.

[Davin]

Israeli 120 mm rounds for Mk3 Baz

Does some body has the penetration data of Israeli 120 mm APFSDS rounds?

[Jim Warford]

...and some more:

1) South Korean 120mm rounds
2) 115mm APFSDS penetrators scattered about
3) Ammo cache in Afghanistan

[Jim Warford]

...Swiss 120mm training ammo.