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#10101 DKTanker

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 2036 PM

The other side thinks the same about Trump et al. Im fine with investigating both.

But in the cases of Comey, McCabe, Page, Rosenstein, Strzok et al, there is probable cause that some real crimes having been committed.  Still, the question remains, who investigates and prosecutes the highest level of investigators and prosecutors?


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#10102 Josh

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 2118 PM

Right, definitely no probably cause with those five convictions and half dozen officials who had no contact with Russians.*

As too who investigates, the only one of those people still working is Rosenstein, and I assume the new AG can fire or have him investigated fairly readily should trump order it? The rest are in no position to stop such a thing.


*Spoiler alert, they all had contacts with Russians that they denied, some in front of the FBI and Congress.

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 2234 PM

Right, definitely no probably cause with those five convictions and half dozen officials who had no contact with Russians.*

 

Without editorializing, answer this simple question, what was the probable cause of crime that justified the Robert Mueller investigation?  If you can answer that send the answer to the United States Department of Justice, they're still struggling to answer to that question.


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Posted Yesterday, 05:02 AM

 

Right, definitely no probably cause with those five convictions and half dozen officials who had no contact with Russians.*

 

Without editorializing, answer this simple question, what was the probable cause of crime that justified the Robert Mueller investigation?  If you can answer that send the answer to the United States Department of Justice, they're still struggling to answer to that question.

 

Trump won. He won only by receiving more electoral votes than Clinton.


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#10105 Paul G.

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Posted Yesterday, 07:13 AM


Right, definitely no probably cause with those five convictions and half dozen officials who had no contact with Russians.*

 

Without editorializing, answer this simple question, what was the probable cause of crime that justified the Robert Mueller investigation?  If you can answer that send the answer to the United States Department of Justice, they're still struggling to answer to that question.

Obstruction of Justice.
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Posted Yesterday, 09:10 AM

Hmm, is that anything like using national intelligence assets for domestic political surveillance?  S/F....Ken M


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Posted Yesterday, 09:25 AM

 

 

Right, definitely no probably cause with those five convictions and half dozen officials who had no contact with Russians.*

 

Without editorializing, answer this simple question, what was the probable cause of crime that justified the Robert Mueller investigation?  If you can answer that send the answer to the United States Department of Justice, they're still struggling to answer to that question.

Obstruction of Justice.

 

You're making shit up to make shit up.  The Rosenstein appointment letter for Robert Mueller's investigation is a mere one page of double spaced typing.  No where on that page is there any reference to any specific crime having been committed much less probable cause of a crime.  

I will grant you that in paragraph "C" of the appointment Rosestein gives the special counsel carte blanche to conduct a fishing expedition.


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#10108 Murph

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Posted Yesterday, 10:57 AM

 

The other side thinks the same about Trump et al. Im fine with investigating both.

But in the cases of Comey, McCabe, Page, Rosenstein, Strzok et al, there is probable cause that some real crimes having been committed.  Still, the question remains, who investigates and prosecutes the highest level of investigators and prosecutors?

 

Who guards the Guardians?  Certainly not the FBI.  


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#10109 Josh

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Posted Yesterday, 11:10 AM

 

Right, definitely no probably cause with those five convictions and half dozen officials who had no contact with Russians.*

 

Without editorializing, answer this simple question, what was the probable cause of crime that justified the Robert Mueller investigation?  If you can answer that send the answer to the United States Department of Justice, they're still struggling to answer to that question.

 

 

I believe the original issues were conspiracy with a foreign power and obstruction of justice.


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Posted Yesterday, 11:12 AM

Hmm, is that anything like using national intelligence assets for domestic political surveillance?  S/F....Ken M

 

Totally within bounds if domestic politics involves a foreign power. That is the FBI CI bailiwick.


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Posted Yesterday, 02:47 PM

 

Hmm, is that anything like using national intelligence assets for domestic political surveillance?  S/F....Ken M

 

Totally within bounds if domestic politics involves a foreign power. That is the FBI CI bailiwick.

 

Is it?  Did the FBI investigate the Clintons when they were taking money from the Communist Chinese?  Did the FBI investigate the Clintons when they were taking money from the Russians?  Did the FBI investigate Edward Kennedy when he worked with the Soviet government to derail the Reagan reelection campaign?  The truth is the FBI has historically taken a hands off approach when it comes to politics and a foreign power.  


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Posted Yesterday, 02:54 PM

 

 

Right, definitely no probably cause with those five convictions and half dozen officials who had no contact with Russians.*

 

Without editorializing, answer this simple question, what was the probable cause of crime that justified the Robert Mueller investigation?  If you can answer that send the answer to the United States Department of Justice, they're still struggling to answer to that question.

 

 

I believe the original issues were conspiracy with a foreign power and obstruction of justice.

 

Didn't even bother looking at the appointment letter.
Here's the link, please quote that portion of the letter that speaks to probable cause for any crimes whatsoever.


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Posted Yesterday, 03:50 PM

"Issues". Is that weasel-speak for charges, indictments, crimes, ANY legal term at all? Because if its plain old issues, we all have those, and a certain crowd has a lot of those against Trump.


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#10114 Murph

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Posted Yesterday, 03:53 PM

No it is weasel speak for we are attempting a coup against a legally elected President since we wanted Hillary! to be president so we could get graft and power.


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Posted Yesterday, 04:09 PM

Well at least we got the graft part.
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