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#5041 DB

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 1605 PM

if Boris wins, it's the perfect argument for a general election if the ruling party has a leadership change.

 

I mean, who or what could be worse than Boris?

 

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 1620 PM

if Boris wins, it's the perfect argument for a general election if the ruling party has a leadership change.

 

I mean, who or what could be worse than Boris?

 

:wacko:

 

question is how this is going to go. either the french way, that is all against BoJo band toghether and vote for one candidate (like in french presidential elections, all vote against the candidate named LePen in the second round) or are they still going to splinter the votes. Which leaves Johnson.

 

 

I personally think rory Stewart an interesting candidate, because i have watched a few interviews with him, and he was surprisingly sensible for a politican. And knew what was wrong with most of development of the third world politics. or what he says about taxes:

 

 Criticises other candidates for offering "cheap electoral bribes" to win support. - Says rather than being "straight" with people, his opponents have pledged "eye-watering" tax cuts worth £84bn.
 

 

 

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.u...litics-48624579

 

at the bottom the BBC has collected the candidates' positions.


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#5043 Chris Werb

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 1702 PM

I hope your mum's pneumonia clears up soon. Take care, Stuart.
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Posted 13 June 2019 - 1756 PM

if you want to check the odds: https://www.oddschec...ervative-leader


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#5045 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 0209 AM

 

 

Ive actually been going into hospital all week, my mother came down with something that gave her acute Pneumonia. I seem to have just got something similar myself, im not sure whether its flu or just a virus, but lets hope I avoid the same result.

 

Oh, and thank you for your concern.

Get some rest and hopefully your mum beats the Pneumonia quickly. 

 

 

+1 :)

 

Get well soon. Flu really fucks with thinking and all the best for your mother. I hope she makes it. A pneuonia is not easy especially at high age.

 

 

 

 

 

Johnson has learned from Trump and he will get a deal that is beautiful.

 

It will be a yuuuge deal. And save the NHS.

 

 

She is doing well as best I can tell. She is home and the only major problem is insomnia. Its not easy to give up a smoking habit thats lasted over 50 years.

 

As for myself, well I seem to lack Pneumonia, though im coughing up enough fluid to sink a battleship. Fingers crossed. Thanks for the kind thoughts Mr P.


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Posted 14 June 2019 - 0210 AM

I hope your mum's pneumonia clears up soon. Take care, Stuart.

 

Cheers Mate.


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Posted 14 June 2019 - 0221 AM

 

First vote of the Conservative leadership campaign has just revealed its results. Boris got 100, the nearest was something like 40 votes. There will be a run off, but at present it looks like an unassailable lead.

 

Rory Stewart got 19 votes by contrast.

 

Out of a population of 66 million, maybe 40 million of which are eligible, we end up with Boris in charge. Good grief...

 

 

Any one on this site would be a better candidate than Boris. Yes, even the ones advocating nuking India and the middle east.

 

Yes, he is well educated. Yes, he know's everything there is to know about Ancient Rome. The real problem I have is seeing how such knowledge translates into a realistic Brexit strategy. Is he going to crucify Remainers down Whitehall? Poison Gove? Knife Rees Mogg on the Parliament steps? Marry a Horse? He would have learned more watching the boxed set of Yes Minister and Game of Thrones I warrant.

 

 

 

DB, I would normally agree, but to show how screwed up things are, im hoping there wont be another election because Im afraid of a Labour PM. How the world has completely turned on its head.

 

 

https://www.independ...r-a8956566.html

MPs may have run out of possibilities to block a future prime minister pursuing a no-deal Brexit, a senior Tory has warned after an attempt to wrestle control of parliamentary business from the government was defeated.

The remarks came as Conservative leadership contenders continued to insist they are willing to leave the European Union without a deal – despite a leaked document saying the UK will not be prepared for a no-deal exit by 31 October.

Speaking after the Labour and cross-party motion was rejected 309 to 298 votes, Sir Oliver Letwin claimed there may be no more opportunities for parliament to intervene to constrain Theresa May’s successor.

“Under the Article 50 process, on 31 October the UK leaves the EU regardless of whether we do or don’t have a deal in place, unless somebody does something to alter that,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.

He continued: ”If the government doesn’t bring something before parliament, parliament won’t have a chance to take a view on that as things currently stand because we have run out of all the possibilities any of us can, at the moment anyway, think of for parliament to be able to insist on having a view.

“I have really struggled very hard to think of every available opportunity and I can’t currently think of any more.”


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Posted 14 June 2019 - 1939 PM

As for myself, well I seem to lack Pneumonia, though im coughing up enough fluid to sink a battleship. Fingers crossed. Thanks for the kind thoughts Mr P.


Haven't had any weird liquids on your door knobs have ya?  :ph34r:


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Posted Yesterday, 09:01 PM

if Boris wins, it's the perfect argument for a general election if the ruling party has a leadership change.

 

I mean, who or what could be worse than Boris?

 

:wacko:

 

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#5050 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted Today, 02:34 AM

Nah, I like Sadiq. He annoys Donald Trump and Ryan, whats not to love? :)

 

There is an interesting discussion on whether Rory Stewart is the right man for the job.

https://www.cityam.c...through-brexit/

Would Rory Stewart be a good Prime Minister to lead the UK through Brexit?

Olivia Utley, deputy editor at TheArticle, says YES. To make a success of Brexit at this late stage in the game, our new Prime Minister will have to do more than negotiate a good deal with the EU. He must – and this is the even tougher part of the challenge – provide a vision to unite and excite our bitterly divided country. Rory Stewart – a politician who speaks not of the pros and cons of throwing milkshakes, but the importance of love and listening – is the man for the job. His intelligence, charisma and confidence would, of course, go down a treat in any negotiating room, but as his sterling performance in the first TV debate on Sunday made clear, he also has the potential to become a figure around whom Brits can rally.

 

Most importantly, his fantastic social media campaign shows that he is capable not only of talking, but of listening too. And at a time when many feel that democracy itself is under threat, a listening Prime Minister is precisely what we need.

 

Alex Deane, a Conservative commentator, says NO. Trust Rory Stewart to take us through Brexit? We’d likely end up not leaving – which, as his campaign seems to hint, is sort of his aim anyway. Never mind democracy: it all seems a bit difficult, so let’s jack it in. What a view. The slavish and uniform feting of Stewart by our media class is unsurprising, as he lobs the bombs they want lobbed. He’s so in tune with our bien-pensant Remainiac establishment (politicians who won’t deliver on what we voted for, the BBC, The Guardian, oddballs who fund lawsuits against politicians) that he’s exempt from scrutiny for high office. He’s catnip to the anti-Tories, guaranteed airtime as he trashes the party brand. But if, having asked the crocodile to eat him last, he succeeded in aiding and abetting the killing off of real Tories, the lefty media would turn on him – for his appeal is to people who praise “centrism” but vote for the left. And nobody prefers the ersatz to the real.

 

 

The criticism to me points to a basic problem in the Conservative party, and of late also true in Labour. And that is, there is a fear of people whom are actually quite good at their jobs. Everything Rory Stewart did was gold. Even utterly thankless and unremarked tasks in Iraq (he was In CIMIC house in Al Amarah at some point I think, which was like Fort Apache) and Afghanistan (where he was nearly shot by a local Afghan for a bet. They laughed about it later). He even seemed to make a success of the international development desk, and also as Prison Minister. Both unthanked roles.

 

  Whereas everything Boris Johnson has touched, outside writing books where I understand he has talent, has been crap. He made no apparent improvements to London as Mayor, and the majority of the preparation for the olympics took place under Ken Livingston's watch. He achieved nothing in his tenure of the Foreign office other than helping to extend Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe sentence. He made no contribution to the Brexit process at all,  perhaps other than his resignation.

 

 

There is an unhealthy current in British politics (maybe all politics?) where competence comes secondary to political reliability. It must stop, or we are all going to hell in a handcart.


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Posted Today, 08:31 AM

Conservatives round on Rory Stewart, amidst claims he was a former MI6 Spy.

https://www.msn.com/...Ml?ocid=UE13DHP

 

So he is a former Guardsman, specializes in rebuilding broken countries, knows how to negotiate, AND happens to be a former James Bond? What are they still debating? :blink:


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Posted Today, 08:53 AM

Conservatives round on Rory Stewart, amidst claims he was a former MI6 Spy.

https://www.msn.com/...Ml?ocid=UE13DHP

 

So he is a former Guardsman, specializes in rebuilding broken countries, knows how to negotiate, AND happens to be a former James Bond? What are they still debating? :blink:

 

Have seen some interviews and a presentation by him about building up countries. That guy is too sensible I am afraid. :(


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Posted Today, 09:00 AM

Yeah, thats our conclusion too. He is clearly the best qualified for the job. In the present environment, thats as good as a death sentence.

 

Still, sometimes happy mistakes happen....


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