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#1 Vuk

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Posted 18 October 2015 - 1048 AM

Did anything come out of the proposed Egyptian T-62 upgrades and are there any pics of the T-62 with a 120mm gun?



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Posted 18 October 2015 - 1516 PM

Did anything come out of the proposed Egyptian T-62 upgrades and are there any pics of the T-62 with a 120mm gun?

 

No.  Egypt decided to buy more M1A1s instead, to be assembled in Egypt from US-supplied kits.  Once the US was once again willing to sell those kits, the Egyptian Army dropped the T-62 upgrade idea,



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Posted 18 October 2015 - 1520 PM

Did the Egyptian T-62's ever receive anything like additional armour or a laser range finder?  The subject of Egyptian T-62's supposedly fielding DU ammunition often comes up as well...



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Posted 18 October 2015 - 1538 PM

are there any pics of the T-62 with a 120mm gun?

 

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Posted 18 October 2015 - 1543 PM

Thanks



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Posted 18 October 2015 - 1633 PM

IIRC a British company offered improved 115mm as well. Any details?


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Posted 18 October 2015 - 1637 PM

Did the Egyptian T-62's ever receive anything like additional armour or a laser range finder?  The subject of Egyptian T-62's supposedly fielding DU ammunition often comes up as well...

 

I don't know about additional armor, but those upgraded in Ukraine a few years ago did receive laser rangefinders.  It's part of the standard upgrade package for Soviet tanks upgraded by Ukraine or Russia.



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Posted 19 October 2015 - 0822 AM

Would be "fun" handling 120 * 570 mm shells inside the cramped turret.

from the news article link

The contract has provoked negative comment from Russia's arms industry, as Russia's Uralvagonzavod factory in Nizhniy Tagil was previously the Soviet Union's main producer of T-62 tanks that were exported later on to many countries, including Egypt, leading the Russian mass
media to argue that copyright to the T-62 tank allegedly belongs to the Uralvagonzavod factory tank builders and that Kharkiv consequently lacks the legal right to upgrade the armaments.


Israel must have broken copyright as well with their Tiran tanks. WTF? Gripping on anything to bash ukraine I guess.

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 0833 AM

Russian mass media to argue that copyright to the T-62 tank allegedly belongs to the Uralvagonzavod factory tank builders and that Kharkiv consequently lacks the legal right to upgrade the armaments.

 

Similar complaints appeared when Western companies offered upgrades for Soviet equipment (Mi-24 by South Africa, MiG-29 by Israel). I don't know how you can apply copyright to T-62, which really was an improved T-55. 



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Posted 19 October 2015 - 1015 AM

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any news on thouse egyptian m60 mods  ?



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Posted 19 October 2015 - 1015 AM

and this is looks like t-55 mods from egypt -

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 1403 PM

Would be "fun" handling 120 * 570 mm shells inside the cramped turret.

from the news article link

The contract has provoked negative comment from Russia's arms industry, as Russia's Uralvagonzavod factory in Nizhniy Tagil was previously the Soviet Union's main producer of T-62 tanks that were exported later on to many countries, including Egypt, leading the Russian mass
media to argue that copyright to the T-62 tank allegedly belongs to the Uralvagonzavod factory tank builders and that Kharkiv consequently lacks the legal right to upgrade the armaments.


Israel must have broken copyright as well with their Tiran tanks. WTF? Gripping on anything to bash ukraine I guess.

 

 

Remembeer that this article was from 2010, before the current Russia-Ukraine problems flared in the final months of 2013.  This was just a Russian firm to trying to secure its market share.



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Posted 19 October 2015 - 1535 PM


Would be "fun" handling 120 * 570 mm shells inside the cramped turret.

from the news article link

The contract has provoked negative comment from Russia's arms industry, as Russia's Uralvagonzavod factory in Nizhniy Tagil was previously the Soviet Union's main producer of T-62 tanks that were exported later on to many countries, including Egypt, leading the Russian mass
media to argue that copyright to the T-62 tank allegedly belongs to the Uralvagonzavod factory tank builders and that Kharkiv consequently lacks the legal right to upgrade the armaments.

Israel must have broken copyright as well with their Tiran tanks. WTF? Gripping on anything to bash ukraine I guess.
 
 
Remembeer that this article was from 2010, before the current Russia-Ukraine problems flared in the final months of 2013.  This was just a Russian firm to trying to secure its market share.

Of course! I intended to type " bash the ukrainian comoetition". Dunno why why I lapsed there.

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 1733 PM

IIRC a British company offered improved 115mm as well. Any details?

 
 
Check in that table : http://mainbattletan...ys/brtskmnc.htm

 

Would be "fun" handling 120 * 570 mm shells inside the cramped turret


 
Because 120x570 mm NATO ammunition are necessarily larger than the 115x728 mm ones ? :rolleyes:

The French OECC 120 F1 (HEAT-MP-T) has a total length of 984 mm while its 115 mm counterpart is rated at 1055 mm.

Regarding their respective weights, the 3BK15 115 mm HEAT round weighed 26,3 kg while the OECC 120 F1 was a bit lighter (24,3 kg).

Edited by Sovngard, 20 October 2015 - 0826 AM.


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 0102 AM

Is the T62 that cramped in the turret? I thought it was about as roomy as a T55 and that felt pretty much like the Centurion when I was down in it in -97 (GOD is it EIGHTEEN years ago??), and the Centurion felt like a saloon compared to the Leo2 :D

 

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 0626 AM

Length of ammo was an issue. But it was obviously considered issue that you can work around and worth bother not only by Soviets, but also by Israelis.


Edited by bojan, 20 October 2015 - 0629 AM.


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Posted 22 March 2016 - 2202 PM



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any news on thouse egyptian m60 mods  ?

 

Here are a couple more pics of what looks like the same upgrade of an Egyptian M60A3...

 

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 2216 PM

Looks like ERA tiles on the glacis and the front hull sides.  I wonder how much additional protection they provide.



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Posted 23 March 2016 - 1135 AM

I don't know about additional armor, but those upgraded in Ukraine a few years ago did receive laser rangefinders.  It's part of the standard upgrade package for Soviet tanks upgraded by Ukraine or Russia.

 

Any pictures of these Egyptian T-62?



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Posted 23 March 2016 - 1140 AM

Very interesting, any link to the vid with thouse m60-s upgrades? They have also same looking 55-s upgrade.


Edited by Harkonnen, 23 March 2016 - 1140 AM.





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