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#421 shep854

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Posted 21 May 2018 - 0749 AM

More thrust, through one nozzle makes for a harder blast.  At first, I wondered why it approached so high, until I saw the spray it kicks up--that salt mist would be a maintenance nightmare.   As it matures  and starts attaining its rather lofty goals, yes its impressive indeed. :)


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#422 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 21 May 2018 - 0804 AM

I was reading in the Haynes book on the Harrier, the Sea Harrier was specified with a windscreen wiper for just this reason, sea spray. Apparently during the Falklands campaign they were getting encrusted with saltwater, which probably kept the ground crews busy. I suppose this is going to be one advantage for the QE style rolling landing. They are going to be in that environment for a limited period, and hopefully deck melting will be kept to a limit too. :D

 

Ive read the USMC have already experimented with Harrier style FOBing, but they had to introduce a landing plate because it was making a mess out of tarmac roads. I can see why now. Presumably STOL landings might be more popular now.


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Posted 21 May 2018 - 0848 AM

Spallung of concrete has been a problem, too. At least the air intake position reduces the likelihood of fod.
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Posted 21 May 2018 - 0901 AM

Spallung of concrete has been a problem, too. At least the air intake position reduces the likelihood of fod.

 

Yes I can well believe it.

 

Has there been any discussion of whether the RAF will consider dispersed basing like they did with Harrier? I could see the utility of doing it somewhere like Estonia.


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Posted 21 May 2018 - 1136 AM

Impressive how agile the nozzle is


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 0509 AM

http://www.dailymail...rump-visit.html

 

Britain will put on a display of military might when Donald Trump visits next month – with a flypast of its American-made fighter planes.

Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson is drawing up plans for the US President to watch the first of the RAF’s £9 billion stealth fighter fleet land on new aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth.

But because the F-35 Lightning IIs were developed by American firm Lockheed Martin, the Ministry of Defence is considering adding a display by the Red Arrows for a more ‘patriotic’ touch.

 

The first of 48 stealth fighters will arrive next week following a ten-year test programme hit by spiralling bills and technical problems. The RAF’s legendary Dambuster squadron reformed earlier this year to fly the jets.

The £3 billion HMS Queen Elizabeth entered active service in December, while its sister aircraft carrier HMS Prince of Wales is preparing for sea trials.

They are the biggest warships ever built for the Royal Navy, with the MoD describing each as ‘four acres of sovereign territory’ and a ‘symbol of our international influence’.


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 0550 AM

He'll say good things about the United Kingdom and its relation with the US on that trip for sure. Next might be USS Ronald Reagan, HMS Queen Elizabeth, and JS Izumo passing through the SCS together :)


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 0553 AM

He say good things, I have no doubt. Whether they will actually mean anything substantive is where my doubts set in.

 

Anyway, Britannia is showing off again. We really ought to do it more often. :)


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Posted 04 June 2018 - 0556 AM

Japan got good words from him for a whole year. I bet the UK can get twice that. By then, he'll be out of office, thus safe :D


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 0529 AM

To sail for second part of trials today.

https://ukdefencejou...rials-tomorrow/

 

There is an interesting chart that displays when IOC for both ship occur's. Its getting there....Carrier-Strike-Timeline-e.jpg?auto=compr


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 0545 AM

On a related note.

https://ukdefencejou...ive-f-35b-jets/


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 0234 AM

And the first 4 arrive.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44392148

 

Four new RAF F-35 Lightning stealth fighter jets have landed in the UK.

The jets, which cost £92m each, made the 3,000-mile journey across the Atlantic from a US Marine Corps base in South Carolina.

The supersonic planes will be based at RAF Marham in Norfolk, where they are expected to be in operation by the end of December.

The UK's military has committed to purchasing 138 of the US planes from aviation company Lockheed Martin.

 

A fifth jet which set off from the US Marine base returned to South Carolina after the aircraft took fuel from an airborne RAF tanker.

The planes had been due to fly to the UK on Wednesday, but the mission was postponed due to adverse weather conditions.

They will be part of the recently reformed 617 squadron - nicknamed The Dambusters after one of the squadron's missions during World War Two.


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 0350 AM

The USN has a similar squadron lineage. The VFA-195 fies F/A-18E today but originally was VT-19 flying TBM torpedo bombers in 1943-46. Equipped with Skyraiders in 1947 the now VA-20 became VA-195.  On May 1, 1951, the squadron’s Skyraiders, making precise low level runs, delivered aerial torpedoes on the heavily defended and strategically positioned Hwacheon Dam in North Korea. Destruction of the dam had been attempted by USAF and Navy bombers, but was finally accomplished by VA-195, earning them the nickname the Dambusters.

 

djVn8p.jpgA pal/classmate of mine from the same company at the Naval Academy.


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 0415 AM

Oh yeah, I seem to recall having read something about that in a recent book on the Korean war. Was this the squadron in 1991 that retitled themselves sadDambusters on their aircraft? :)

 

We seem to be possibly keeping our options open to commissioning another NAS Lightning squadron. Apparently the colours of 800NAS seem to have been preserved by the Ketterling sea cadets in the hope the squadron will one day be reactivated. It would be nice to see another Falklands Squadron bounce back.


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 0454 AM

That was likely USAF, Stuart:

 

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 0511 AM

Ah yeah Weasels, that rings a bell. Thanks for that.


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 0558 AM

And the first 4 arrive.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44392148

 

Four new RAF F-35 Lightning stealth fighter jets have landed in the UK.

The jets, which cost £92m each, made the 3,000-mile journey across the Atlantic from a US Marine Corps base in South Carolina.

The supersonic planes will be based at RAF Marham in Norfolk, where they are expected to be in operation by the end of December.

The UK's military has committed to purchasing 138 of the US planes from aviation company Lockheed Martin.

 

A fifth jet which set off from the US Marine base returned to South Carolina after the aircraft took fuel from an airborne RAF tanker.

The planes had been due to fly to the UK on Wednesday, but the mission was postponed due to adverse weather conditions.

They will be part of the recently reformed 617 squadron - nicknamed The Dambusters after one of the squadron's missions during World War Two.

 

 

just be careful about the squadron's mascot's dog's name is.


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 0641 AM

They will call him 'Digger' for his complete lack of political correctness and Social niceties. :)


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 0703 AM

Some genuinely superb video here of them landing. Much to my surprise, and contrary to what was claimed, they landed in STOL mode.


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Posted 15 June 2018 - 0635 AM

Couple more videos emerged. Not quite sure what the F35's connection with Blue Circle Cement is though...


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