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#441 shep854

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 0844 AM

I just wish the MoD would grow a spine and put blue/red subdued roundels on the a/c instead of those silly colorblind things!!! :glare:

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#442 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 0853 AM

Yeah it looks pretty daft doesnt it? :D

 

I gather they had a similar problem with the SR71. Apparently they were not going to put any markings on the Blackbird at all because of the high cost of coloured paint, but the USAF demanded it, despite nobody other than the tanker guys ever seeing it in the air. I gather it proved to be quite expensive to have coloured paint that was heat reflective as well as radar elusive.

 

As for this, well I cant see why they dont put some vinyl stickers on, and just take the damn things off when there is a war. I mean, how hard, right?


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Posted 25 June 2018 - 1539 PM

...As for this, well I cant see why they dont put some vinyl stickers on, and just take the damn things off when there is a war. I mean, how hard, right?

 

Pretty soon we'd be reading stories about British defence being so poorly funded that their planes were fitted for but not with national markings.


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Posted 25 June 2018 - 1725 PM

Planes, what planes? Those are USN birds! 


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Posted 26 June 2018 - 0201 AM

I THINK the ones that landed at Marham are British owned. The ones that will be part of the test program to land on the Queen Elizabeth later this year will be the US owned, instrumented birds. But it makes sense, in that the landing they are planning is something a bit different. They want to be sure the sotware all works properly.

 

Besides, Im not seeing an issue really. Its nothing that hasnt happened before....

 

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Posted 26 June 2018 - 1130 AM

HMS Queen Elizabeth underway replenishes for the first time.

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Posted 26 June 2018 - 1806 PM

While handy, 220 cubes doesnt sound nearly as impressive as 220,000 liters. :P
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Posted 23 August 2018 - 1932 PM

HMS Queen Elizabeth is crossing the Big Pond:

 

 

HMS Queen Elizabeth sails for the United States – here’s the plan

 

Just over a year since HMS Queen Elizabeth arrived in Portsmouth for the first time, she will sail for her longest and most significant deployment yet. Known as Westlant 18, the primary purpose of the trip is for QE to conduct the first of class flying trials (FOCFT) with the F-35B Lightning II. (Some of the aviation aspects are discussed in more detail in our earlier article).

Itinerary

Before crossing the Atlantic, the ship will embark more helicopters and conduct a few days of additional rotary wing flying trials in UK waters. She will then head to the eastern seaboard of the US which is likely to take around 10 days, depending on weather and the flying programme. When close to the US, the Merlin Mk4s will fly off Royal Marines to conduct a small demonstration assault landing. This is not a full-scale test of QE in the assault role (HMS Prince of Wales will undertake the main development of amphibious capability) but is a preliminary trial of the ship’s ability to embark troops onto helicopters and launch them simultaneously. The Royal Marines will then participate in joint exercises ashore with their US Marine Corps counterparts.

 

QE’s is expected at Naval Station Norfolk, Virginia in early September. She will unload Royal Marine equipment and take on test equipment required for the F-35 flight trials programme. While the crew get some time ashore, the ship is likely to be of a subject of great curiosity to the US military who have generously provided much support for the regeneration of UK carrier strike. Norfolk is home to six of the US Navy’s ten supercarriers and QE is a showcase for a radically different approach to aircraft carrier design.

 

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Aircraft carrier heaven – Naval Station Norfolk, Virginia – the world’s largest naval base.

 

The F-35 flight trials off the east coast will consist of two Developmental Testing periods (DT-01 and DT-02) which are scheduled to last around about 3-4 weeks each, with a break in between. The first F-35 landing on QE will probably be in the 3rd week of September. A historic occasion will be the ship’s arrival in New York sometime in October, which will attract considerable public attention in the US. QE will come to anchor with small boats used to ferry visitors and personnel to and from the ship. The RN is in negotiations with the New York harbour authorities for a ‘high profile anchorage’. Prominent US and British politicians are likely to visit the ship and this will be the first big demonstration of her potential as a floating ambassador for the UK. Before returning home in December, the ship will make a second visit to Norfolk to re-embark equipment and Royal Marines.

 

QE may spend some time in the Caribbean to test her performance in hot/humid conditions. The RN has also done some contingency planning in case the ship is called on to assist in hurricane relief operations in the region. 700 tonnes of disaster relief stores and equipment are embarked on QE but fortunately weather patterns this year would suggest that hurricanes are likely to be less severe than last year when HMS Ocean was called upon. (RFA Mounts Bay is already in the area and available to assist). As always, the Westlant 18 programme may be subject to change in response to events.

 

Task Group

Westlant 18 is not an operational deployment or a formal excise and it is important to remember QE and her aircraft are still in an extended trials phase before she declares Initial Operating Capability (IOC), scheduled for the end of 2020. However, Commander UK Carrier Strike Group (COMUKCSG), Cdre Andrew Betton and his staff are embarked and will exercise command over the small task group. Around 40 of the UK battlegroup staff will join QE out of the 65 in total.

Sailing with QE will be the frigate HMS Monmouth and the brand new support tanker RFA Tiderace. US Navy warships will also operate with the group for some of the time. No official comment will be made but it is likely the group will have a protective shadow of RN or US navy submarine assets, especially in light of much-increased Russian submarine activity in the North Atlantic. (It is notable that HMS Monmouth does not have a 2087 Towed Array sonar ‘tail’ effective in detecting submarines at range in open ocean.)

HMS Queen Elizabeth’s core ships company now numbers 800 men and women. As we predicted there has been a significant growth beyond the 690 initial planned complement and Captain Kyd says he expects the number to rise slightly further in future. The average age of the sailors is 24 and about 30% have never visited a foreign port before. At the other end of the spectrum, there is a select group of just 7 men over the age of 50 serving on board. For Westlant 18, QE will sail with a total of around 1,500 personnel. Besides the battle staff, the additions are helicopter aircrew and maintainers, 70 Royal Marines of 42 Commando and a role 2 medical team comprising about 20 people. 200 personnel involved with F-35 including pilots, engineers and data analysts from the Integrated Test Force (ITF) will also join the ship.

 

Do read the whole thing, as its useful for understanding how the QE is being worked up and she is to be used.


Edited by Dark_Falcon, 23 August 2018 - 1932 PM.

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Posted 24 August 2018 - 0155 AM

Just so you all know what you are in for...


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Posted 24 August 2018 - 0158 AM

Is what I just got a so-called freedom boner?


 

 

 

 

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Posted 24 August 2018 - 1058 AM

Flattop firmie maybe? :)


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Posted 24 August 2018 - 1327 PM

 

Is what I just got a so-called freedom boner?


 

 

 

 

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Yes, but if it persists for more than 8 hours call your doctor.  :D


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Posted 24 August 2018 - 1743 PM

Does it help to know that four of those are gators?


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Posted 25 August 2018 - 1242 PM

Does it help to know that four of those are gators?

 

Yes, though those ships will be getting F-35Bs like the Queen Elizabeth.  So they surely belong in the picture.


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Posted 26 August 2018 - 0758 AM

 

Does it help to know that four of those are gators?

 

Yes, though those ships will be getting F-35Bs like the Queen Elizabeth.  So they surely belong in the picture.

 

 

Rotary wings are aircraft too! #helolivesmatter ;)


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Posted 26 August 2018 - 1032 AM

Keep this up, and anything with a patch of vacant deck becomes a carrier... :P
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Posted 26 August 2018 - 1207 PM

At one time the UK was interested in buying a few V-22 Ospreys. I take it that has passed into oblivion?


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Posted 26 August 2018 - 1224 PM

They have talked themselves out of it. Ultimately, we cant afford it.

 

We have chinooks we could use for COD I guess.


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Posted 26 August 2018 - 1252 PM

The only ones who still think they can have V-22 wear funny coloured berets.


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Posted 26 August 2018 - 1301 PM

Have there been any UK exchange crew flying USMC Osprey's?


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