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#2661 wendist

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 1658 PM

 

In the first link I had to rely on google translate but I think it says in the first paragraph that both Finnish and Estonian aircrafts will be used as aggressors. For Estonias part I guess that would be your L-39 trainers? 

 

It said that the aggressors took of from Estonia and Finland without specifying whose aircraft those were. No info on Estonian L-39 participation.

 

Well, that's google translate for you I guess. ^_^ Thanks for sorting it out for me. 


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 0850 AM

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 1343 PM

Ie...defect? :)


Or even just go visit. How many hard to get to places did Christopher Hitchens visit?

He visited North Korea. Iran. He went to Cuba several times.
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Posted 14 June 2018 - 1139 AM




I'm digging the A-10 with the Olive Drab and D-Day stripes!


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#2665 Chris Werb

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 0128 AM

It's an aircraft built to operate in the face of D Day era air defences, so the scheme is very appropriate.
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#2666 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 0705 AM

I think its nice. The Poles and the Canadians have done comparable schemes as well. I think we did a Hawk painted up in WW2 Lancaster colours, which looked good if a little strange.

 


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 0824 AM

I thought this article particularly illustrative of the attitudes in Estonia. Clearly pretty anti-Russia, but then how could you be B3 and not be?

https://www.politico...-218965?cid=apn
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Posted 17 July 2018 - 0501 AM

^that link is unworkable.
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Posted 07 August 2018 - 1540 PM

Seems one of our Tifones lost accidentally an AIM-120. Apparently, that is something not easy to do with that kind of missile. Wonder what happened.

 

Spanish Eurofighter jet accidentally launched an air-to-air missile near Estonia

 

https://defence-blog...ar-estonia.html

 

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#2670 Chris Werb

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 1611 PM

I think its nice. The Poles and the Canadians have done comparable schemes as well. I think we did a Hawk painted up in WW2 Lancaster colours, which looked good if a little strange.

 

 

 

In a shooting war, the life expectancy of that towed artillery vs the Russians would be measured in single digit minutes.


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#2671 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 0337 AM

Chris, you probably realize, the Russians have even more towed artillery than we do. I think they have even been equipping Spetsnaz units with D30's out of reserves IIRC.

 

They also have significant numbers of 2A65's still in service with Artillery Brigades. Good guns, but not exceptionally survivable even with their range.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 0339 AM

Seems one of our Tifones lost accidentally an AIM-120. Apparently, that is something not easy to do with that kind of missile. Wonder what happened.

 

Spanish Eurofighter jet accidentally launched an air-to-air missile near Estonia

 

https://defence-blog...ar-estonia.html

 

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I see you, and raise you. :D


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 0532 AM

:D


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 0558 AM

Chris, you probably realize, the Russians have even more towed artillery than we do....

 

You can rely on towed arty if you can afford to lose it.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 0622 AM

As far as D20's, absolutely. And at least 2A65 has the range to make counter battery against them problematic.

 

I read somewhere that Spetsnaz were also bringing SPG9 back into service too. Probably still useful in some applications.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 1222 PM


Chris, you probably realize, the Russians have even more towed artillery than we do....
 

You can rely on towed arty if you can afford to lose it.

And if your higher end mobile systems lock a hopelessly outnumbered enemy into a fruitless counterbattery battle.
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Posted 08 August 2018 - 1604 PM

The problem is practical experience of pro-Russians, who are forced by political decision to operate on static front for longer than WWI, with every possible firing position now well known for enemy and fired at many times, is that even SPGs are not mobile enough to survive counter battery fire in this conditions – as at least in one case second enemy shell landed so close SPG was write off. So now improvised answer is using tanks, with some DIY upgrades, as SPGs for indirect fire – their thick armor is giving much better protection from counter battery fire.
   In “real armies” conflict this speed and accuracy will not require four years of static front, but will be on the table right from the beginning.


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 1213 PM

The problem is practical experience of pro-Russians, who are forced by political decision to operate on static front for longer than WWI, with every possible firing position now well known for enemy and fired at many times, is that even SPGs are not mobile enough to survive counter battery fire in this conditions – as at least in one case second enemy shell landed so close SPG was write off. So now improvised answer is using tanks, with some DIY upgrades, as SPGs for indirect fire – their thick armor is giving much better protection from counter battery fire.
   In “real armies” conflict this speed and accuracy will not require four years of static front, but will be on the table right from the beginning.

 

And your army will have DPICM, artillery scattered mines, thermobarics and a variety of very nifty sensor fused submunitions from the outset.


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#2679 Roman Alymov

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 0406 AM

 

The problem is practical experience of pro-Russians, who are forced by political decision to operate on static front for longer than WWI, with every possible firing position now well known for enemy and fired at many times, is that even SPGs are not mobile enough to survive counter battery fire in this conditions – as at least in one case second enemy shell landed so close SPG was write off. So now improvised answer is using tanks, with some DIY upgrades, as SPGs for indirect fire – their thick armor is giving much better protection from counter battery fire.
   In “real armies” conflict this speed and accuracy will not require four years of static front, but will be on the table right from the beginning.

 

And your army will have DPICM, artillery scattered mines, thermobarics and a variety of very nifty sensor fused submunitions from the outset

 

It will end up with nukes flying anyway.


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 0928 AM

Probably it is to this thread: old maps of Soviet Poland Army planning\excercises. Average speed indicated as 100 km per day....38760467_1930287570347516_91261415192359
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