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#41 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 0147 AM

Yeah its a fair point, im not sure the Soviet Model was used all that wisely among the Warsaw Pact. I cant believe the Poles would ever accept direction from anyone else. :D


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Posted 01 April 2019 - 1130 AM

Apparently Egyptian pilots were amused at their allied Russian counterparts coming off second best against the Israelis in 1970 over the canal. 

 

Attachment to doctrine may not survive first contact with a competent enemy.


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Posted 02 April 2019 - 0325 AM

Yes, true enough.

 

Q and A with John 'Hooter' Schreiber, Phantom and Tomcat pilot.

 


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Posted 04 April 2019 - 0518 AM

Not really at sea, but its well worth watching.


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Posted 15 April 2019 - 0502 AM

This is a top rate film from 1974, showing the effort to bring the F-14 Tomcat into service. Has some really good film of the training facilities and some of the Phoenix missile tests.

https://archive.org/...nalTomcatRexfer

 

Incidentally, Periscope films are awesome. They also do a very nice range of repro flight manuals, including 2 for the F14 that ive found really useful.


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Posted 18 April 2019 - 0507 AM


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Posted 18 April 2019 - 0910 AM

Couldn't tell if there was some film editing involved, but the ripple firing of 4 Phoenixes was highly entertaining. 

 

Grumman's hiring of the narrating admiral after his retirement was highly illustrative of how the U.S. mil procurement game is played as well.


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Posted 18 April 2019 - 0920 AM

Yeah, you can almost see his bulging money clip. Or maybe that was just talking about ripple firing phoenixes.

 

There must be more episodes to the series, ill post them up if any appear. In the meantime, there is this primer on the F8U Crusader to keep everyone warm and fuzzy.

 

Makes me think of all the ones that did low overlights over Cuba. Now thats a job I would want no part of.


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Posted 18 April 2019 - 0924 AM

Oh, and another one on KC130 (GV1).

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=f2RLb0OOi1o

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 1002 AM

So many awesome videos, so little time.

 

Thank  you, gents!


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 0544 AM

Good interview with an F14 RIO.

 


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 0555 AM

Apparently Egyptian pilots were amused at their allied Russian counterparts coming off second best against the Israelis in 1970 over the canal. 

 

Attachment to doctrine may not survive first contact with a competent enemy.

 

The Israeli armour branch found the same thing in 1973 when they encountered the Egyptian Army at the Suez Canal and got clobbered with MCLOS  ATGMs. That caused a rapid rethink too.


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 0622 AM

They actually drew "wrong" conclusions from 1967. and both own and Egyptian limited use of the ATGMs then.

Thing is that Egyprians in 1973. instead of having 4 x 2P26 launcher per brigade now had 4 x Sagger launcher per Bn + brigade AT group of 6 or 12 self-propelled 9P122 + separate AT companies with 8 Sagger launchers etc.

Mechanized units had even more.

And all this was layered with ATGs, tanks, SPGs, RCLs and hand-held AT weapons.


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 0833 AM


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Posted 01 May 2019 - 0404 AM

They actually drew "wrong" conclusions from 1967. and both own and Egyptian limited use of the ATGMs then.

Thing is that Egyprians in 1973. instead of having 4 x 2P26 launcher per brigade now had 4 x Sagger launcher per Bn + brigade AT group of 6 or 12 self-propelled 9P122 + separate AT companies with 8 Sagger launchers etc.

Mechanized units had even more.

And all this was layered with ATGs, tanks, SPGs, RCLs and hand-held AT weapons.

 

To be fair, when the war was analysed, most of the kills were by RPGs as the Israeli tankers took as an article of faith that the Arabs would run if charged with tanks. Only Sharon (who had broken through brilliantly at Abu Agheila) seemed to understand that this was sucidal.

 

The problem was exacerbated by the Israeli mobilisation system, as the tankers that went through the experience on the first 2 days weren't able to transmit their experience to the reservists who were poorly served by their 67 experience.

 

Still, the IDF recovered remarkably quickly and adapted their tactics within the first week, but the experience was traumatic enough that it marked the Israeli psyche to this day.


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Posted 01 May 2019 - 0518 AM

This is less about the Cold War than about seapower. But Kennedy has a lot of interesting things to say about power projection, and the future of America and its allies. I find it quite inspiring actually.


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Posted 01 May 2019 - 0657 AM

Good history of the development of the Forrestal and Kitty hawk class.


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Posted 01 May 2019 - 0707 AM

This is less about the Cold War than about seapower. But Kennedy has a lot of interesting things to say about power projection, and the future of America and its allies. I find it quite inspiring actually.

 

Although a little depressing with so much time spent on credit and having the financial house in order towards the end :)

 

Overall it was interesting, haven't considered the role of naval war during the Napoleonic years had played before.


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Posted 01 May 2019 - 0715 AM

He has a point thought. Ive read before, the British Royal Navy only really started being consistently successful when we had implimented some taxation reforms, I guess that would have been under Queen Anne. And as we saw, it proved just as successful building a decent field army.

 

In the end, our armed forces are only as good as our economy. Economizing on the military to balance the books is kind of doing it the wrong way round.

 

Glad you liked it anyway. :)


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Posted 01 May 2019 - 0808 AM

This is worth watching too. Particularly as the same debates over the rise of American naval power are being repeated to day in many of Trumps criticisms.


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