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#1 Dawes

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Posted 25 August 2019 - 1232 PM

The vehicle looks quite sharp in this desert camo pattern. Would this be the standard desert pattern or just a one-off for the tests?

 

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#2 lastdingo

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Posted 25 August 2019 - 1502 PM

The contrast is so ridiculously poor that it's rather a statement of fashion than a camouflage pattern.

 

A proper desert camouflage would (aside from the anti-dust measures visible on the photo) use light sources to counteract the shadows. Shadows are also the main issue with camouflage in Mediterranean summertime and in snow.


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#3 rmgill

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Posted 25 August 2019 - 2125 PM

Hopefully it doesn't melt when hot.  :mellow:


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#4 Panzermann

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Posted 29 August 2019 - 2111 PM

The vehicle looks quite sharp in this desert camo pattern. Would this be the standard desert pattern or just a one-off for the tests?

 

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There are prescribed ways of repainting the green-brown-black pattern with more arid or desert appropiate colours. Depending on the exact environment, but the pattern on the Puma prototype does not match in its shapes the proper Bundeswehr pattern which would be ainted over starting with the black shapes first:

 

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So it is a one-off for the tests.


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#5 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 31 August 2019 - 0211 AM

It will look so nice parked next to Bovingtons Tiger. :)


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#6 Dawes

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Posted 31 August 2019 - 0914 AM

I may have to pick up a model Puma:

 

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Posted 31 August 2019 - 0949 AM

I seem to recall that one of the first German contingents in Afghanistan painted palm tree logos on some vehicles. That and t shirts saying "further east than grandpa got" caused pearls to be clutched and fainting couches to be deployed in Berlin.
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Posted 31 August 2019 - 1056 AM

I seem to recall that one of the first German contingents in Afghanistan painted palm tree logos on some vehicles. That and t shirts saying "further east than grandpa got" caused pearls to be clutched and fainting couches to be deployed in Berlin.

 

The unit that did the palm trees was the then PzBtl 33 (now reroledas PzGrenBtl 33), which has a coat of arms showing a palm tree or on a split field sable and argent (I hope I got the heraldry speak right). So they had just marked their wehicles, as they do in Germany. 33 has always painted a palm tree somewhere on their vehicles.

 

The t-shirts with the soldier humour did not go down well as to be expected. Typical of the hyporites to send soldiers out, but getting upset when soldiers do soldiers things like dark humour.  :glare:


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#9 urbanoid

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Posted 31 August 2019 - 1202 PM

Do you have any sauce for that?


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Posted 31 August 2019 - 1217 PM

On a related note, does Puma have any prospects for foreign sales?


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Posted 31 August 2019 - 1604 PM

They tried to use it as the base design for a U.S. program.

 

I doubt they'll even only be able to sell additional versions in Germany since the costs are clearly not under control.


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Posted 31 August 2019 - 1900 PM

This one? https://below-the-tu...ot.com/2015/06/


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Posted 01 September 2019 - 0328 AM

On a related note, does Puma have any prospects for foreign sales?

 

Yes. First of all Puma is taking part in the Czech Army's tender for a new IFV, where it beat the other candidates during a pre-tender trial (i.e. five IFVs were tested before requirements were made, so they requirements would end up being reasonable). However there have been some sketchy decisions in the program, e.g. while the original request for the pre-tender tests specifically asked for an unmanned turret, it was decided one month before the deadline for final submissions (and 2+ years in the tender) that a manned turret and the capacity to transport 8 dismounts (despite the Czech mechanized infantry squad apparently being just six men) were mandatory. After some legal meddling, PSM decided to offer a new variant of the Puma with manned turret and ca. 1-1.5 metre lengthened hull (according to Czech news agencies).

 

Shepard Media reported that Romania is looking to buy 73 Puma IFVs, mostly to kill two birds with one stone: new IFVs are desperately needed and Romania is looking to compensate Rheinmetall, as they intend to break a contract with the Germany company - i.e. the Agilis 8x8 amphibious vehicle, which was/is being jointly developed by Rheinmetall and a Romanian ministry. General Dynamics European Land Systems has been selling the Piranha 8x8 for a very decent price to Romania, so the Agilis isn't needed anymore.

 

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It also has been reported that Hungary is looking to buy "a German IFV" to operate alongside the new Leopard 2A7+ tanks that it has purchased. Before signing the contract, a Hungarian delegation visited Germany, where they witnessed a live demonstration of the Leopard 2 and the Puma. Supposedly they want KMW to deliver the new IFV (as they also have contracts with KMW for the Leopard 2 and Panzerhaubtize 2000), which would mean that they want to buy the Puma IFV.


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