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#101 JasonJ

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Posted 25 April 2018 - 2249 PM

India has been bloc-free during the Cold War, they will likely try to remain bloc free, but seek access to mil tech that enables them to ward off the Chinese, even though the ongoing disputes are mostly about some near-dead mountain areas..


Dingo, I think it is worth considering the occurances of joint-training between India and Japan. Not only has Japan become a permanant member of the annual Malabar exercise, there has been a number of other times when the navies of both have trained together. Later this year, the JGSDF will be doing some training in India. I recall the two training with MPAs as well last year. There has also been growing defense relations between India and Vietnam. So there's been a fairly distinctive line appearing with China-Pakistan-Russia on one side and India-Vietnam-Japan on the other side. With that, the US naturally lines up with the latter. So its a new bloc dynamic that is unavoidable for India. A new free bloc, or non-alignment, to emerge will end up be countries just trying to balance these two new blocs against each other.
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Posted 25 April 2018 - 2314 PM

I wonder how much of this is Modi being a mad nationalist and chauvinist.  I think Sing was much more amenable to supporting some BRIC led Eurasian integration etc.


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Posted 26 April 2018 - 0539 AM

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 0916 AM

India has been bloc-free during the Cold War, they will likely try to remain bloc free, but seek access to mil tech that enables them to ward off the Chinese, even though the ongoing disputes are mostly about some near-dead mountain areas..


Dingo, I think it is worth considering the occurances of joint-training between India and Japan. Not only has Japan become a permanant member of the annual Malabar exercise, there has been a number of other times when the navies of both have trained together. Later this year, the JGSDF will be doing some training in India. I recall the two training with MPAs as well last year. There has also been growing defense relations between India and Vietnam. So there's been a fairly distinctive line appearing with China-Pakistan-Russia on one side and India-Vietnam-Japan on the other side. With that, the US naturally lines up with the latter. So its a new bloc dynamic that is unavoidable for India. A new free bloc, or non-alignment, to emerge will end up be countries just trying to balance these two new blocs against each other.


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At the end of the day India has two mortal enemies: Pakistan and China. One of those is essentially not a threat. One of those threatens to completely supplant India in its own region. Russia is not the ally that is going to work in an anti China coalition. So end of the day, India goes US going forward, blocks be damned.
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Posted 27 April 2018 - 1039 AM

India and Indians wanting an alliance with Washington now, barely a generation after their signing of the India-USSR Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation and their support of Hanoi during the Cold War, sounds about right for what might have been the only democracy in the world to excuse itself from the burden of actually taking a stand in it.


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Posted 27 April 2018 - 1053 AM

I would agree that there are a number of shared interests with those of India and the People's Socialist Republic of North Vietnam.

 

Whether those shared interests constitute a foundation for strategic alignment and, most importantly, linkage, between Japanese strategic interests and those of two nations that are significantly less socioeconomically developed than it, I am deeply skeptical of.


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Posted 28 April 2018 - 1006 AM

It's dead now...

 

http://www.janes.com...-to-go-it-alone

 

Considering that main source of income provider pulled out...


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#108 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 28 April 2018 - 1011 AM

Wouldnt be surprised to see them go for the Rafale now.


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Posted 28 April 2018 - 1108 AM

It's dead now...

 

http://www.janes.com...-to-go-it-alone

 

Considering that main source of income provider pulled out...

Fisrt: it's not dead aside from someone's dreams. Second: as was said many times before, including that topic - India was NOT providing money for project. PERIOD. Aside from initial 180mln$ before real development started there are NO money from India to Russia related to that project. All those billions was considered but never paid due to indian obstinacy.

FGFA death came fully from indian side.


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Posted 28 April 2018 - 1109 AM

Good to know... :D


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#111 JasonJ

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 0754 AM

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 1045 AM

Japan and Japanese are now suffering from obstructionist Indian policies creating headache after headache for the joint bullet train deal. Essentially India and Indians changing the parameters of the deal that Japan and Japanese will end up paying more for, while skimping on the sectors India is responsible for payment of.

 

Japanese MFA officials, engineers, and bankers now receiving a taste of what Russians have known about doing business with India and Indians for decades I suspect.


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Posted 25 May 2018 - 1321 PM

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Posted 27 May 2018 - 0928 AM

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Posted 27 May 2018 - 1550 PM

Any idea what weapon that is? looks some kind of miniature cruise missile.
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Posted 27 May 2018 - 2213 PM

Any idea what weapon that is? looks some kind of miniature cruise missile.

 

That's what it be. I don't remember the cruise missiles designation off the top of my head. 


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Posted 28 May 2018 - 0052 AM

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Posted 28 May 2018 - 0205 AM

Storm Shadowski. Nice.


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Posted 29 May 2018 - 1003 AM

Turkey now in preliminary talks with Russia for purchase of SU-57,

 

http://nationalinter...ricas-top-26004

 

Sounds like F-35 is still the preferred choice though.

 

#bluffingnotbluffing


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#120 JasonJ

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Posted 30 June 2018 - 2047 PM

First contract worth 12 SU-57s was ordered.

https://defence-blog...h-fighters.html


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