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#1 Inhapi

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Posted 23 April 2019 - 0455 AM

Can anybody recommmend a good source on the various types of armour used in tanks before the "age of the composite armour".

 

I know it is basically all steel, but then, there is probably no metal that can have so many different qualities like steel, certainly during the later half of the 19th and the first half of the 20th centuries.

 

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Posted 23 April 2019 - 1844 PM

There's a US military report in 1945 called Metallurigical Study Of Enemy Ordnance about German and Japanese armor,etc. Might be a good starting point.
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Posted 24 April 2019 - 0201 AM

Kenneth Mackseys 'Tank Vs Tank' gives a very nice overview of the armour/firepower race from the birth of the tank up to the present day. But to the best of my recollection it doesn't go into metallurgy.

 

I read a good book by a commander of a Cromwell that went into Germany in what he latterly found was a mild steel training tank. That was an interesting read.


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Posted 24 April 2019 - 0600 AM

Kenneth Mackseys 'Tank Vs Tank' gives a very nice overview of the armour/firepower race from the birth of the tank up to the present day. But to the best of my recollection it doesn't go into metallurgy.

 

I read a good book by a commander of a Cromwell that went into Germany in what he latterly found was a mild steel training tank. That was an interesting read.

 

Wasn't that the guy wh'os tank got peppered by 20 mm rounds (flak vierling ?) and immediatiatly saw something fishy: the small caliber rounds were not reflected by the armour but stuck in the steel plates. IIRC, he then went to the ordanance depot to find out what was special about this tank and found out that it was a mild steel prototype. But his crew did not want another (i.e. and armoured one)  tank ?


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Posted 24 April 2019 - 0624 AM

 

Kenneth Mackseys 'Tank Vs Tank' gives a very nice overview of the armour/firepower race from the birth of the tank up to the present day. But to the best of my recollection it doesn't go into metallurgy.

 

I read a good book by a commander of a Cromwell that went into Germany in what he latterly found was a mild steel training tank. That was an interesting read.

 

Wasn't that the guy wh'os tank got peppered by 20 mm rounds (flak vierling ?) and immediatiatly saw something fishy: the small caliber rounds were not reflected by the armour but stuck in the steel plates. IIRC, he then went to the ordanance depot to find out what was special about this tank and found out that it was a mild steel prototype. But his crew did not want another (i.e. and armoured one)  tank ?

 

 

Thats the one. It was also faster than any other Cromwell in his regiment, to the point of being able to do Dukes of Hazard style jumps. :D

 

It kind of illustrated neatly, speed is a kind of armour, and it did them proud.


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Posted 24 April 2019 - 0628 AM

There's a US military report in 1945 called Metallurigical Study Of Enemy Ordnance about German and Japanese armor,etc. Might be a good starting point.

 

Thanks, looking for it now online


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Posted 24 April 2019 - 1026 AM

No problem, good luck finding it.
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Posted 25 April 2019 - 1331 PM

This site has many discussion threads on WWII tank armor.

https://forum.axishi...866815586890254


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Posted 25 May 2019 - 0609 AM

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