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#21 Przezdzieblo

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 0758 AM

Can the Kombat GLATGM be fired from vehicles that can fire the 9M119M Refleks? Also whats its maximum effective range, and penetration?

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That is what I have:
weight (of round, I guess): 30 kg
lenght: 1083 mm
diameter: 125 mm
range (min.-max.): 200-5000 m
velocity: 295 m/s
penetration: ??
But note Kombat is based on 9M128 Agona, which had 5 kg tandem warhead (2,1 kg of explosives) and penetration ~650 mm + ERA.

There is also 120 mm version of Kombat (named Falah-1?), 27 kg, same range, velocity 312 m/s.

Kombat could be fired by tanks with 1G46 or 1K13 sights (then f.e. T-80UD, modernised T-64, T-72B) at moving targets (up to 70 km/h) while tank is moving itself (up to 35 km/h).
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#22 yak_v

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 1111 AM

One Nato country (Holland?) trialled a similar 'suit' for the leopard, but it was rejected as being difficult to decontaminate. There was a similar system also developed for the Challenger2 turret which may have been rejected for similar reasons.

Have they conducted any decontamination trials with it? it has to be said, the effect it has on breaking up the vehicles outline is remarkable.

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I would think that in the modern days the threat from the guided weapons is so much higher than from chemical ones, that no matter how hard it is to decontaminate it makes sence to use this suit.

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Edited by yak_v, 27 June 2006 - 1115 AM.

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#23 alejandro_

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 1221 PM

Harkonnen

I have read your article using a translator and it was very interesting, well done. In one section you compare the T-90 and the T-84, you state that the firepower is similar, but previously in the article you mentioned that the ukrainian guns are equivalent to the 2A46M-1 gun. Can you give more details?

The T-64 modernization don't include any thermals right?

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#24 yak_v

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 1323 PM

Fair point, though if that would always be the case, why fit an NBC system? That said If it can be easily removed, its academic in any case. Just throw it away.

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NBC is there because there is no easy way to add it if needed, but with this cover it is simple not to use it if there is an NBC threat if it is impossible to decon.

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#25 pikachu

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Posted 02 July 2006 - 0407 AM

Looking at the combat modules picture on the first page of this thread, it occured to me that there's no top egress hatch for most (all?) of them. What's the design rationale behind this choice? Totally separate from the need to sometimes use eyeball Mk.1, there's always the need to exit the vehicle quickly in cases of dire emergency. Is the turret operator expected to just join the passengers on emergency egress?
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Posted 04 July 2006 - 1207 PM

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#27 Harkonnen

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 0632 AM

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Technical characteristics:
Projectile: 3
Weight projectile, kg: 7,15
Weight round: 20,17
Muzzle velocity, m/s: 1700
Max. pressure (t=21oC), kg/sm2: 4800
Operating temperature range, oC: -40..+55
Propelling charge: Ж63-3
Primer bushing: ГУВ-7
Dimensions of the case, mm: 823x544x295
Weight of case with round, kg: 51
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#28 Davin

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Posted 08 July 2006 - 1215 PM

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Technical characteristics:
Projectile: 3
Weight projectile, kg: 7,15
Weight round: 20,17
Muzzle velocity, m/s: 1700
Max. pressure (t=21oC), kg/sm2: 4800
Operating temperature range, oC: -40..+55
Propelling charge: Ж63-3
Primer bushing: ГУВ-7
Dimensions of the case, mm: 823x544x295
Weight of case with round, kg: 51

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It's interesting.Is this APFSDS round called 3BM-42U2?
Do you have a penetration estimate on it?
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#29 Djuice

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Posted 09 July 2006 - 0259 AM

Are any T-64 and its variants been offered for export? Is the T-64BM2 Bulat only for Ukraine? Or are intending to export those? If so how expensive would it be for the standard package?
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Posted 09 July 2006 - 0655 AM

One main problem with the T-64 series that I am aware of is the running gear, in these later/latest versions have the Ukrainians managed to solve unreliability problems associated with earlier models of the T-64?
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#31 Harkonnen

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 0520 AM

One main problem with the T-64 series that I am aware of is the running gear, in these later/latest versions have the Ukrainians managed to solve unreliability problems associated with earlier models of the T-64?

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There are no problems with running gear.
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#32 Vasiliy Fofanov

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 0554 AM

There are no problems with running gear.

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Presumably because the gear isn't running that much lately? ;)
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Posted 23 July 2006 - 0627 AM

Is the T-64 Ukraine's backbone in terms of tanks?
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#34 Harkonnen

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 0808 AM

Is the T-64 Ukraine's backbone in terms of tanks?

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YES
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#35 richard_lin

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Posted 23 July 2006 - 0841 AM

Dear Harkonnen, do you have some details about BMPT-64? I think this version is so soundble for Russia and China who have a lot of old MBTs such as T-54/55/62.
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Posted 27 July 2006 - 0423 AM

Does anyone have pictures of the BMP-1 "Baryer"? I always assumed this is only a prototype but according to the UN's register of conventional arms, Sri Lanka purchased 7 "BMP-1 Baryer w/ 3 machine guns" already in 1994 from Ukraine.
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#37 Harkonnen

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 0549 AM

Does anyone have pictures of the BMP-1 "Baryer"? I always assumed this is only a prototype but according to the UN's register of conventional arms, Sri Lanka purchased 7 "BMP-1 Baryer w/ 3 machine guns" already in 1994 from Ukraine.

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Barrier is an ATGM station for armored vechicles, Skif is the man portable complex, both use the same R-2 missile. Both were not availible in 1994.
Can you give a link on this news?
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Posted 27 July 2006 - 0637 AM

Barrier is an ATGM station for armored vechicles, Skif is the man portable complex, both use the same R-2 missile.


Hm, I read somewhere that the Bar'yer is a patrol vehicle, based on the BMP-1. But it wouldn't be the first time that the same name was used for different systems.

Can you give a link on this news?


Well, "news" :) Here's the URL:
http://disarmament.u...UN_REGISTER.nsf
Go to Ukraine and then to 1994.
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Posted 27 July 2006 - 2024 PM

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Is there a L/D ratio estimate on this round?
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Posted 31 July 2006 - 1311 PM

Is there a L/D ratio estimate on this round?

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The rod is 680 mm, without fins, as I remember.
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