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#201 2805662

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Posted 17 March 2018 - 1113 AM

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Some additional information on the infrastructure/industry portions of the project. Project cost includes facilities upgrades in Townsville, Brisbane, Pucka, and Adelaide. Costs also include construction of a factory in Brisbane. First 30-odd vehicles built in Germany, the rest built in Australia.
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 1144 AM

(tons = imperial, tonnes = metric)


Thanks for that, will take on note.
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 1156 AM

 

(tons = imperial, tonnes = metric)


Thanks for that, will take on note.

 

 

to further needlessly complicate things there are imperial short tons and long tons.

 

https://en.wikipedia..._of_mass/weight

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonne

 

 

and other related wikipedia entries go into the details. Makes your head spin. that is probabaly the reason that ton (1000 kilograms) is not an SI unit. But Megagrams is awkward, although correct.


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 1410 PM

 

to further needlessly complicate things there are imperial short tons and long tons.

 

Long ton being 2240, aka 20 Hundredweight (aka cwt or 112 lbs). British/Commonwealth WWII lorries being rated in hundred weight or if larger types, long tons. aka 15cwt truck being 1680lb capacity. A bit higher than a dodge 3/4 ton truck. 


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 1512 PM

Any idea on how far out practical individual wheel motors are?  Eliminating power shafts should help reduce height, though width might be the new critical dimension.


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 1631 PM

Any idea on how far out practical individual wheel motors are?  Eliminating power shafts should help reduce height, though width might be the new critical dimension.


I think hub motors were demonstrated to the US Army in the early 2000s as part of the Thunderbolt version of the M8 AGS.
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 1845 PM

Any idea on how far out practical individual wheel motors are?  Eliminating power shafts should help reduce height, though width might be the new critical dimension.

I just got a mental image of Vehicle crews being taught that in an emergency, pulling the breaker module and licking the contacts was an approved way to get the thing to function in an emergency. 


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 2317 PM

 
that is probabaly the reason that ton (1000 kilograms) is not an SI unit. But Megagrams is awkward, although correct.


Did not know that tonne/1,000kg wasnt SI. Cheers!
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Posted 18 March 2018 - 1317 PM

 

wow....Malaysian projects arent anywhere that bloated.

The whole thing is a pork barrel / smoke and mirrors project.

 

Considering that 99% of the article was spent extolling the economic benefits of the contract, I tend to agree.


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Posted 19 March 2018 - 0257 AM


 


wow....Malaysian projects arent anywhere that bloated.

The whole thing is a pork barrel / smoke and mirrors project.
 
Considering that 99% of the article was spent extolling the economic benefits of the contract, I tend to agree.

$AUD2 Bn on infrastructure & factories. The rest on the vehicles.

The Defence Capability Plan was replaced by ts Integrated Investment Plan (IIP) which intrinsically linked major projects with industrial benefits (so-called Australian Industry Capability/Content) as a means of protecting major projects from cuts while delivering the requisite level of capability. Without that local anchor, major projects were at risk of cancellation (see the Land 17 SPH, for example). Companies now participate in the global supply chains of winning primes (JSF & Boxer, for example). Provided as background.
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Posted 04 April 2018 - 1255 PM

Thanks to Defence Technology Review, we have some more information on the numbers of Boxers being purchased.

Original requirement: 225 vehicles, 180 turreted.
Approved numbers: 211 vehicles, 223 mission modules (133 turreted).

Seems as though the modularity of Boxer will exploited.
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Posted 17 May 2018 - 0657 AM

Boxer CRV participates in Exercise CHONG JU (firepower demonstration):

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Posted 23 May 2018 - 0339 AM

And something from left field:

 

I mean if a company tries blocking a report, it means that they may have something to hide.....

 

http://www.abc.net.a...-report/9792734

 

One of Australia's largest defence companies has launched legal action against the Auditor-General over a report that criticises the handling of its $1.3 billion Hawkei project for new armoured vehicles for the Army.

 

The ABC can reveal Thales Australia recently applied for a Federal Court injunction against the Australian National Audit Office (ANAO) over the report, which is yet to be tabled in Federal Parliament.

 

The Auditor-General has confirmed Thales Australia asked that some information be excluded from the audit of its Hawkei project, but the request was rejected.

 

The French-owned company then launched action in the Federal Court to have that decision reviewed, with a hearing now scheduled for July.

 

A spokesman for Thales said the company was not in a position to comment on the dispute as the matter was before court.

 

"Hawkei delivers a lifesaving capability to the Army, designed and manufactured in Australia," the spokesman said.

 

"Out of respect for the legal process, we can't make any comment on the matter before the court."

 

In recent months several defence companies have expressed private frustrations at the ANAO's work, believing some of its reports have contained blatant errors that have unfairly hurt their reputations.

 

However, crossbench senator Rex Patrick said he was concerned to see a company take the Auditor-General to court.

 

"I am mindful that this matter is before the courts and I am not aware of the full details of this case, but I will state as a matter of principle that the ability of the Auditor-General to report, without fear or favour and free of interference, is of vital importance to ensure effective scrutiny of how the Government spends taxpayers' dollars," Senator Patrick said.

 

"The legislation that establishes the Auditor-General's position makes it clear that the Auditor-General has 'complete discretion in the performance or exercise of his or her functions or powers' and is 'not subject to direction from anyone' in relation to the conduct of any audit.

 

"External influence on the work of the Auditor-General would be a very serious matter for the Parliament and I intend to bring this issue to the attention of the Parliamentary Joint Committee of Public Accounts and Audit, a committee that I am a member of."

 

Thales was awarded the $1.3 billion contract in 2015 to build 1,100 Hawkei light armoured vehicles and 1,000 specialised trailers for the Army near the central Victorian city of Bendigo.

The Hawkei is a smaller version of the older Bushmaster troop carrier that has strong blast protection and can carry six soldiers at a top speed of more than 100 kilometres per hour.


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Posted 25 May 2018 - 0340 AM

Australia selects the Spike LR 2 for the Boxer CRV, which could well mean it will be its ATGM of choice for the LAND 400 Phase 3 as well, and the ground forces in general (i.e infantry).

 

http://www.janes.com...lects-spike-lr2


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Posted 25 May 2018 - 0439 AM

And something from left field:
 
I mean if a company tries blocking a report, it means that they may have something to hide.....
 
http://www.abc.net.a...-report/9792734
 


Well, it is known as Thales the truth [Thales being pronounced Tal iss, here]....

Regarding the Spike LR2 - that report is not confirmed & there has been no announcement from the Australian DoD.
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