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#21 Panzermann

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Posted 07 September 2015 - 0855 AM

Ah, so it basically formalizes what has been in catalogues for a long time as "30 mm protection".

 

I wonder why french VBCI or Austrian Pandur II are not in the running? Exotics like Lasar 2 from Serbia or ukrainian BTR-4 were out of the running from the start.
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Posted 07 September 2015 - 1113 AM

I wonder why french VBCI or Austrian Pandur II are not in the running? Exotics like Lasar 2 from Serbia or ukrainian BTR-4 were out of the running from the start.

 

As far as I know the VBCI was at first offered by Nexter and Raytheon, but was withdrawn after seeing the requirements of the Australian army. Apparently they thought that they cannot meet several important criterias.

 

http://www.australia...ng-for-land-400

 

"The field of contenders for Land 400 is dwindling. ADM confirmed recently that the Boeing and Iveco team has withdrawn  and now Raytheon has confirmed to ADM in a statement that they will not be pursing the multi-billion dollar vehicle program with France’s Nexter.

 

“Raytheon and Nexter have recently sought to build on their international partnership to submit a solution for the Land 400 Phase 2 combat reconnaissance vehicle (CRV) competition. Based on the combat proven VBCI coupled with the next generation capability embodied in the T40 turret, the Raytheon/Nexter solution delivers world-leading capability in firepower, force protection, survivability and mobility.

After careful consideration of the Land 400 Phase 2 request for tender (RFT) requirements for the provision of a      military off the shelf plus      (MOTS+)     solution     for the    risk      mitigation     activi  ty   (RMA), the compani es believe they   cannot    conscionably  offer the MOTS+, VBC I  based solution that the Australian Army needs and deserves; both for its mission today and into the future.”"


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Posted 07 September 2015 - 1456 PM

Ah, so it basically formalizes what has been in catalogues for a long time as "30 mm protection".

 

I wonder why french VBCI or Austrian Pandur II are not in the running? Exotics like Lasar 2 from Serbia or ukrainian BTR-4 were out of the running from the start.

 

Presumably they'd have to quantify it a bit better than that. Not all 30mm chamberings were created equal.


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Posted 08 September 2015 - 0115 AM

 
Presumably they'd have to quantify it a bit better than that. Not all 30mm chamberings were created equal.


That detail is probably in the classified annex, I'm guessing.
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Posted 08 September 2015 - 0119 AM

I suspect it will be 3UBR6 30x165mm from a 2A42.


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Posted 08 September 2015 - 0805 AM

But 3UBR6 is not an APFSDS.


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Posted 08 September 2015 - 0851 AM

Based on the combat proven VBCI coupled with the next generation capability embodied in the T40 turret.

I'm disappointed that the turret didn't remain in the running. Not so fussed about the VBCI hull.
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Posted 11 September 2015 - 0644 AM

More about the Terrex 2:

"IHS Janes revealed that the Terrex 2 has a 30-tonne gross vehicle weight compared to the current 24-tonne Terrex, offering increased payload capacity for weapons, armour, and expendables. The vehicle accommodates two crewmembers - the driver and commander - as well as 12 fully equipped troops in specially designed blast-attenuating seats that can be detached for quick access to hull storage spaces or to facilitate maintenance.

According to ST Kinetics, crew survivability is further enhanced with a proprietary hull design that it calls "V-over-V" (VoV), comprising two V-shaped hull sections. The lower section is designed absorb the initial blast from a mine or improvised explosive device (IED), with the second V-shaped hull further reducing the likelihood of troop casualties."
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Posted 04 October 2015 - 2143 PM

Well the Australian Army is getting replacements for 'some' of its Landrovers in the form of a 'light protected mobility vehicle'.

 

http://www.abc.net.a...ehicles/6827164


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Posted 05 October 2015 - 0011 AM

The 'made in Bendigo' Hawkei comprises the following:

-monocoque cabin by Plasan (Israel),
-engine by Steyr (Austria),
-transmission by ZF (Germany),
-suspension by AxleTech (USA),
-ICS harness by Thales Netherlands (you can probably guess).

Very local!
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Posted 05 October 2015 - 0158 AM

Sounds like a Revell model kit


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Posted 05 October 2015 - 0439 AM

Buy a farkin JLTV.


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Posted 05 October 2015 - 1258 PM

Buy a farkin JLTV.


That was the plan. Even bought into the JLTV TD phase & tested right-hand drive JLTV competitors in Australia.

http://www.army-guid...hp?forumID=1814

Thales is too astute locally. They got the guy who was pushing JLTV sacked.
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Posted 07 October 2015 - 1117 AM

The Hawkei vehicle is a good idea for Aussie needs


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Posted 08 October 2015 - 0326 AM

It's also not relevant to Land 400.
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Posted 28 March 2016 - 1520 PM

The down select for the 12-month "Risk Mitigation Activity" is due today. Of the four bidders, only a maximum of three can be brought forward. My money is on two.

Candidates are:
Rheinmetall - Boxer/Lance.
BAe- AMV35 (Patria AMV w/ CB9035 "E35" turret).
Thales - LAV6.0 w/Kongsberg RCT30 remote turret.
Elbit - "Sentinel II" SAIC Terrex 2 w/ MT30 turret (manned version of their UT30).

Money is on the Rheinmetall offer. Hopefully the BAe offer will get through so that the CV9035 is offered for Phase 3.
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Posted 01 April 2016 - 1755 PM

...and delayed.

Not enough local fabrication.
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Posted 27 April 2016 - 1940 PM

Some new pics of the Rheinmetall contender for LAND 400, the Boxer Combat Reconnaissance Vehicle.

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 0525 AM

Huh? 40 mm cta? :blink:

Looks like the MK30-2 ABM in a LANXE turret to me with this muzzle device and the frame around the barrel.
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Posted 28 April 2016 - 0658 AM

Huh? 40 mm cta? :blink:

Looks like the MK30-2 ABM in a LANXE turret to me with this muzzle device and the frame around the barrel.


It's a screenshot from a magazine/pdf document, the 40 mm CTA caption is for another section of the article, I guess. The Boxer CRV uses the MK30/2-ABM and (once integrated) ATGMs.
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