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#1 Ivanhoe

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Posted 15 June 2019 - 2341 PM

As usual, Federal keeps working on things...

 

 

Reliable but limited expansion, plenty of penetration, Federal quality. 


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Posted 16 June 2019 - 1035 AM

Wish they'd bring back Nyclad, in .38 at least.
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Posted 16 June 2019 - 1046 AM

Wish they'd bring back Nyclad, in .38 at least.

 

Why did they drop it?


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Posted 16 June 2019 - 1231 PM

 

Wish they'd bring back Nyclad, in .38 at least.

 

Why did they drop it?

 

It's always an MBA's fault :)


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Posted 16 June 2019 - 1515 PM

It works, Federal makes good stuff, I run their Fusion and "Tactical" bonded stuff in a lot of guns.  You should still plan to shoot every feral savage in the head, x2.

 

I'm very impressed with the Hornady ELD-X right now for rifles.  S/F....Ken M


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Posted 16 June 2019 - 1546 PM

 

 

Wish they'd bring back Nyclad, in .38 at least.

 

Why did they drop it?

 

It's always an MBA's fault :)

 

 

Or a marketing f-boy. Recall the Yogi Berra-ism; "Nobody goes there any more, its too crowded."


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Posted 16 June 2019 - 1547 PM

I'm happy with HST for 9mm, but something like this (modest but consistent expansion, emphasis on penetration) for .380, and get it to reliably punch past 12", it would certainly be a popular option to compete with XTP loads.
 


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Posted 16 June 2019 - 1548 PM

It works, Federal makes good stuff, I run their Fusion and "Tactical" bonded stuff in a lot of guns.  You should still plan to shoot every feral savage in the head, x2.

 

Even their standard pressure HST fodder is #1 or #2 in pretty much every gelatin shoot-off. 


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Posted 16 June 2019 - 1712 PM

It was probably the best self defense ammo of the era, especially for the .38 spc which needs every bit of help it can get in 2 in revolvers. I believe Fed does make a polymer coated rnd now which would probably be close. But I haven't see any to chrono. I'll stick with Hornady swaged LSWCHP 158 gr on top of max standard pressure loads of Power Pistol, I have 300 or so loaded in my stash. Pretty well duplicates the classic FBI load at lower pressure. My 9mm has been loaded with Fed 124 gr Hydra-shock or reloads with Speer 124 gr Gold Dots for 25+ yrs and see no reason to change.


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Posted 16 June 2019 - 1740 PM

I'm not sure what happened to NyClad; I buy retail, and it simply went away. One account I read was that the anti's claimed that the coating helped it 'slip through body armor', when it was actually to prevent lead build-up in the barrel from the relatively soft bullet.  The ease of expansion due to the soft lead alloy is especially beneficial in snubbies.


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Posted 17 June 2019 - 0208 AM

Same damn reason as powdercoating lead bullets. Huge improvement in dust and crap.


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Posted 17 June 2019 - 1127 AM

People powder coat because it's easier, cheaper and faster than traditional lubing. An RCBS Lam II or Lyman Lubrisizer is an expensive initial investment ($165-$200), a coolwhip bowl and a toaster oven for pc is a lot cheaper. It isn't any better at reducing leading in the barrel or reducing airborne lead, most of which is from the lead styphnate in the priming compound not the bullets. I've tried doing it but wasn't impressed, I'll stick with tumble lube (Ben's Liquid Lube, 60/40 Liquid Alox and Johnson's Wax) or traditional lube from a sizer. I've used the tumble lube in a Garand successfully as well as handguns.


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Posted 25 June 2019 - 0902 AM

most of which is from the lead styphnate in the priming compound not the bullets. 

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which makes the hubbub about lead free bullets so silly. But the lead-styphanate primers are the most reliable under most temperature conditions, so it is hard to get around them when you do not want to have different loadings for different temperatures..


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