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#841 Jim Warford

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Posted 21 September 2019 - 2216 PM

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#842 Chris Werb

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Posted 22 September 2019 - 1832 PM

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#843 Harkonnen

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 1031 AM

In Firepower book (history of Abrams) Hunnicut mentions improved ballistics 105 mm gun (1,5 m longer then standard Abrams gun) for IPM1 upgrade. Are there any photos or other info on this gun?


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#844 Ken Estes

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 1600 PM

Firepower book has nothing about the Abrams, it is a history about the US heavy tank, 1943-72.


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#845 Harkonnen

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 1656 PM

It is Abrams book, but the queation is about the gun.


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Posted 11 October 2019 - 1345 PM

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#847 DKTanker

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Posted 12 October 2019 - 1942 PM

In Firepower book (history of Abrams) Hunnicut mentions improved ballistics 105 mm gun (1,5 m longer then standard Abrams gun) for IPM1 upgrade. Are there any photos or other info on this gun?

I don't think it ever existed except as a engineering study.  The basic M1 was never going to be upgraded because it was so structurally different from the M1IP and M1A1, that an armor upgrade was out of the question.  No armor upgrade, no pressing reason to upgrade the gun.  I was at the Armor School in 1984 when the talk was about the M1IP and future M1A1, there was absolutely no talk about an enhanced 105mm gun.  


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#848 Harkonnen

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Posted 27 October 2019 - 1420 PM

 

In Firepower book (history of Abrams) Hunnicut mentions improved ballistics 105 mm gun (1,5 m longer then standard Abrams gun) for IPM1 upgrade. Are there any photos or other info on this gun?

I don't think it ever existed except as a engineering study.  The basic M1 was never going to be upgraded because it was so structurally different from the M1IP and M1A1, that an armor upgrade was out of the question.  No armor upgrade, no pressing reason to upgrade the gun.  I was at the Armor School in 1984 when the talk was about the M1IP and future M1A1, there was absolutely no talk about an enhanced 105mm gun.  

 

The Army continued the 105-mm. Tank Gun Enhancement Program to extend the useful life of the fielded M60 and Ml tank fleets at a minimal cost. The program's goals were the development of an improved kinetic energy round, the XM900, and an extended (approximately 1.6 meters) 105-mm. gun tube, the XM24, to retrofit onto the M60A3 and Abrams tanks. During FY 84, the Watervliet Arsenal manufactured and delivered 14 XM24 tubes and 17 breeches for cannon, vehicle, and ammunition evaluations. The XM900 projectile received design evaluation testing during the fiscal year. The Army completed the advanced development phase in February 1984 and initiated it for the Ml in March. Full-scale development will begin in November 1984 for the M60A3 and January 1985 for the Abrams.


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Posted 27 October 2019 - 2159 PM

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Posted 30 October 2019 - 1555 PM

 

I'm guessing the T23 turret is a later addition?


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Posted 30 October 2019 - 1630 PM

I'm guessing the T23 turret is a later addition?

It appears so.
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#853 Harkonnen

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Posted 04 November 2019 - 0940 AM

When non-skid painting was introduced on M1A1 Abrams tank? Mid 80-s or later?


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Posted 04 November 2019 - 1011 AM

 

I'm guessing the T23 turret is a later addition?

It appears so.

 

 

Thank you for that, thats really interesting.


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#855 Harold Jones

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Posted 04 November 2019 - 1032 AM

When non-skid painting was introduced on M1A1 Abrams tank? Mid 80-s or later?

As far as I remember they were issued with it.


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Posted 04 November 2019 - 1152 AM

 

When non-skid painting was introduced on M1A1 Abrams tank? Mid 80-s or later?

As far as I remember they were issued with it.

 

 

No, definetly not.


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#857 Harold Jones

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Posted 04 November 2019 - 1419 PM

Mine was, but that was in '89.  


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Posted 04 November 2019 - 2010 PM

 

 

When non-skid painting was introduced on M1A1 Abrams tank? Mid 80-s or later?

As far as I remember they were issued with it.

 

 

No, definetly not.

 

Yes definitely.  I don't recall about M1s, and Harold can correct me on this, but I seem to recall M1 IPs having non-skid paint.  Maybe the M1A1s initially issued to 3ACR in 1986 didn't have it, but I know for sure that all M1A1s fielded in Europe, starting on 9 January 1987, had non-skid paint.


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