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#121 Tim the Tank Nut

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Posted 12 July 2016 - 0851 AM

that's an interesting analysis


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#122 Panzermann

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Posted 22 August 2016 - 0848 AM

a jihadi is being put on trial in Den Haag for destroying the libraries, shrines etc. in Tombouctou.

It is the first time that the court in The Hague has tried a case of cultural destruction.
It is also the first time a suspected Islamist militant has stood trial at the ICC and the first time a suspect has pleaded guilty.

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Pleading guilty, he said: "I am really sorry, I am really remorseful, and I regret all the damage that my actions have caused.
"I would like to give a piece of advice to all Muslims in the world, not to get involved in the same acts I got involved in, because they are not going to lead to any good for humanity," he added

Islamist rebel apologises for destroying Timbuktu shrines at ICC trial (BBC)

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#123 Panzermann

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Posted 26 July 2017 - 1617 PM

Digging up this old threat to a sad occasion. A Tiger has crashed near the town of Tabankort north of the city of Gao. Both crewmen dead.

 

Les indications préliminaires font état d’une défaillance technique. Les enquêtes ouvertes détermineront les circonstances exactes du crash. L’hélicoptère avait à son bord deux Casques bleus constituant l’équipage et qui, malheureusement sont tous décédés.

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Reuters: http://www.reuters.c...h-idUSKBN1AB23N

A German military helicopter working with the United Nations peacekeeping mission in Mali crashed in the desert north on Wednesday, a spokesman for the mission said.
There was no information on the fate of the Tiger attack helicopter’s two German crew members or the cause of the crash, which occurred in Gao region, Ahmad Makaila said.

 

 

AP: https://www.washingt...m=.181fad0f476b

 

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2 Germans missing after helicopter crash in north Mali

 
 
By Baba Ahmed | AP July 26 at 2:12 PM

BAMAKO, Mali — A U.N. peacekeeping helicopter crashed Wednesday in the desert in northern Mali and two German citizens are unaccounted for, U.N. officials said.

U.N. deputy spokesman Farhan Haq said the crash took place south of Tabankort in Mali’s northern Gao region. He said officials are still working to verify details of the crash, including its cause and possible casualties.

Mali is home to the world’s deadliest active U.N. mission. Haq said due to the confrontations on the ground with radical jihadists, the crash site must be secured before personnel can reach the scene.

Ahmad Makaila, a spokesman based in Mali with the U.N. mission known as MINUSMA, said authorities had lost contact with the two Germans on board the helicopter.

There was no immediate comment from the German military on the crash.

Germany currently has 875 troops serving in MINUSMA, while another 134 Germans are taking part in the European Union mission in Mali.

The U.N. mission has been working to stabilize Mali after a 2013 French-led intervention to oust radical jihadists from power in the country’s major northern towns. Militants continue to launch regular attacks on peacekeepers, as well as on Malian military targets.

U.N. peacekeeping chief Jean-Pierre Lacroix told the U.N. Security Council earlier this year that the security situation in Mali is alarming. He warned that extremist groups operating under the al-Qaida banner are carrying out more sophisticated attacks, and said Islamic State militants are slowly making inroads too in the desert region.

“This convergence of threats is particularly alarming” because the government presence is often weak or non-existent in Mali, he said.

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Associated Press writer Edith M. Lederer at the United Nations contributed to this report.

 

 

 

Great the press office of the UN mission MINUSMA cannot hold its feet still, while there is still an operation ongoing. OPSEC is obviously not their thing. The media have of course published and spread the news as fast as possible. So the relatives of two dead crew have very probabaly heard in the news. Great. And those whose realitves are in Mali but have not crashed have been agtated for no reason. <_<


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#124 Panzermann

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Posted 26 July 2017 - 1625 PM

Zwei deutsche Soldaten bei Hubschrauber-Absturz in Mali getötet (Neufassung) (augengeradeaus.net)

 

 

Reasons unknown so far. No indications that it is realted to enemy fire (so far). No emergency call from the crew.  Whole Tiger fleet is grounded except for emergencies to examine what has crashed the helicopter.


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#125 Panzermann

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 0758 AM

News Mali crash: German military pilots' group cites deficiencies

The helicopter crash in Mali has been attributed to insufficient testing and flight training by a military pilots' lobby group. But the Bundeswehr says it doesn't deploy inexperienced crews to the UN mission.

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Germany's Bundeswehr air base at Gao, Mali

The technician and pilot lobby group IGHT told the newspaper "Bild" Friday that Germany's Tiger combat helicopters and their crews sent into Mali's harsh deserts had been inadequately prepared.

"Our Tiger pilots don't have enough experience in the machines deployed, to fully command those helicopters in borderline situations," said Reinhardt Schlepphorst, who chairs the specialized group representing aviation personnel.

None of the Tiger pilots had reached the 140 flight hours required under NATO rules before being sent on the military operation, said Schlepphorst.

A Bundeswehr spokesman quoted by the German news agency DPA rejected that charge, saying "we send no inexperienced pilots into operation."

Wednesday's crash northeast of Gao in central Mali which claimed two lives, involved a pilot who had already served in Afghanistan, added the spokesman.

A German crash investigations team has been sent to Mali to locate the flight data recorder from the crashed helicopter, which went down suddenly early afternoon, local time, in hot temperatures of around 38 degrees Celsius (98 degrees Fahrenheit), reportedly with no distress call.

Speculation

Rainer Arnold, defense spokesman for Germany's Social Democrats (SPD), who are currently coalition partners with Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservatives, told the Saarbrücker Zeitung newspaper Friday it was too early to draw consequences from the helicopter crash.

"On this we simply have too little information, "Arnold said.

Bundeswehr under-resourced?

Friday's debate is the latest exchange in a long-running row over the readiness of Bundeswehr equipment coupled with calls for more funding.

Germany deployed four Tiger and four NH-90 transport helicopters to Mali earlier this year - after a hefty Bundestag debate - as part of the UN mission MINUSMA to counter Islamist insurgents that began in 2012 following a French intervention.

Used by four nations

Wednesday's crash was the first deadly incident involving the Tiger, a two-seater German-Franco helicopter developed by Airbus, originally as an anti-tank fighter, but converted into a multi-role aircraft with infrared and TV cameras.

Europe's twin-engine helicopter series, which first entered service in 2003, is used primarily by the armies of France, Germany, Spain and Australia.

The specialist website Helis says Eurocopter, the manufacturing consortium, had delivered 120 Tiger of all variants to the four nations by 2015.

Bundeswehr losses

Since 1993, Germany has lost 108 soldiers due to attacks, combat, accidents and suicides during foreign deployments, including 56 in Afghanistan.

Other such locations were Bosnia and Kosovo.

The first was a medical corps sergeant assigned to a UN mission in Cambodia, who was shot in 1993.

ipj/ng (dpa, AFP)

 

 

http://www.dw.com/en...cies/a-39869709


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#126 Panzermann

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 0800 AM

"Our Tiger pilots don't have enough experience in the machines deployed, to fully command those helicopters in borderline situations," said Reinhardt Schlepphorst, who chairs the specialized group representing aviation personnel.

None of the Tiger pilots had reached the 140 flight hours required under NATO rules before being sent on the military operation, said Schlepphorst.

 

 

ouch. and 140 flght hours is not much.


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#127 Panzermann

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 0750 AM

http://www.dpa-inter...70730-99-446607

 

von der Leyen has moved a scheduled visit to Mali forward on occasion of the crash.

 

 

 
German defence minister arrives in Mali in wake of helicopter crash  

Jul 30, 2017

 

Gao (dpa) – German Defence Minister Ursula von der Leyen arrived in northern Mali on Sunday, four days after two German soldiers were killed in a helicopter crash there.

Von der Leyen arrived in the early morning hours in Camp Castor, the military base of the German peacekeeping troops in the volatile town of Gao.

The minister was planning to spend the whole of Sunday with German soldiers and attend a memorial service.

The bodies of the two Bundeswehr soldiers had arrived Saturday night in Germany.

Family members and fellow soldiers received the remains at an air force base near the western city of Cologne. Von der Leyen also attended the private event.

The two soldiers' Tiger attack helicopter crashed Wednesday near the town of Tabankort in the Gao region of Mali.

The two pilots were conducting surveillance for the UN peacekeeping mission in Mali (MINUSMA) in the aftermath of violent clashes between armed groups Coordination des Mouvements de l'Azawad and the Plateforme.

The deaths were the first losses for Bundeswehr troops in the country in almost two years.

The cause of the crash remains unknown, with preliminary results pointing to a technical failure, according to the UN.

However, the recorder is damaged, and it is not yet clear whether information can be extracted from it, the spokesman added.

There are 875 German soldiers stationed in Gao as part of the UN's Mali peacekeeping operations.

Von der Leyen is also planning to visit the neighbouring West African nation of Niger.

 

 

 

 

 


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#128 Simon Tan

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 0918 AM

Why are they deploying those Tigers? They offfer nothing over a NH-90. 


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#129 Panzermann

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 1619 PM

Why are they deploying those Tigers? They offfer nothing over a NH-90. 

 

Well politicians made promises to France and the UN to supplant the Dutch Apaches...

 

there are four NH90 and four (three now) Tiger in Mali. Well the Tiger has nightvision and daylight optics and all that, the NH90 has NV googles for the crew at best and the Tiger crashed while on a mission to keep watch over troops on the ground.


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#130 Panzermann

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 0834 AM

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#131 Simon Tan

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 1055 AM

Your NH-90 have no FLIR?


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#132 Panzermann

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Posted 21 August 2017 - 0358 AM

Your NH-90 have no FLIR?

 

No they do. But the UN wants a few combat helicopters for MINUSMA. The Tigers replaced Dutch AH-64.

 

 

Meanwhile Germany brings MANTIS AA systems to Mali in Novembre. But only the sensors? :wacko:

 

http://www.janes.com...5_PdoZU.twitter

 

 

Bundeswehr plans first deployment of MANTIS to Mali
Nicholas Fiorenza - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
18 August 2017
 

The Bundeswehr is planning to deploy the Modular, Automatic and Network capable Targeting and Interception System (MANTIS) counter-rocket, artillery and mortar defence (C-RAM) system for the first time to Mali, Jane's has learned.

Deployment of MANTIS in the “sense and warn” configuration, without 35 mm guns, is expected in November, the Luftwaffe told Jane's. This will increase the safety of soldiers in Mali, where the threat from rockets, artillery and mortars in increasing, the Luftwaffe explained.

In June the Bundeswehr held Exercise ‘Big Ophelia II’ in the Gefechtsübungszentrum des Heeres (GÜZ), the German Army's Combat Training Centre in Letzlingen, eastern Germany, to prepare for the deployment of MANTIS to Mali.

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#133 mattblack

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Posted 21 August 2017 - 2036 PM

There isn't much of an ISISAF to worry about.
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#134 Panzermann

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 0546 AM

There isn't much of an ISISAF to worry about.

 

MANTIS can shoot down mortar bombs, which from time to time are fired at the camps in Mali. Also the guns can shoot at ground targets.


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#135 Colin

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Posted 31 May 2018 - 1916 PM

Excellent video on a French logistical unit doing resupply in Mali 


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#136 Simon Tan

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Posted 01 June 2018 - 0228 AM

They were delivering water. Let me suggest that this is triumph of bureaucracy rather than results. What is the mission? Who is the enemy? What is the desired end goal? As for sending C-RAM....it's idiotic.


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Posted 16 June 2018 - 0434 AM

I haven't heard anything in the news about continuing operations in Mali for a long time now (perhaps since 2014 when "Operation Serval" was supposedly completed).  So news of continuing French involvement as far as military forces go is a little surprising.

 

Without asking anything to upset the OPSEC rule, is there still a large French presence in the area?

 

There's at least one book covering Serval in detail (in English) that I'm aware of, I may look into getting this one.  

 

https://www.amazon.c...a'ida in Africa


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Posted 17 June 2018 - 1218 PM

The French were replaced by the UN mission: https://peacekeeping...mission/minusma


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Posted 17 July 2018 - 0515 AM

BBC report on operations in the Sahara region.

 


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