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Posted 30 January 2007 - 2111 PM

The T-62 is the forgotten Soviet Tank. There doesn't seem to be any information about its variants and there doesn't seem to be any agreement on them when there is information.

Any information on T-62 history and variants?
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 0413 AM

Tell me about it. I haven't heard much about Syrian T-62s.

Then again, there isn't much news on Syrian armour at all....

Unedumacatde me says that the T-62 is more of an evolution of the T-55. :unsure: I'll shut up henceforth. :lol:
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 0521 AM

T-62 (1961) - Obj.166
Base model. 2A20 gun with two plane "Meteor" stabiliser and +16/-6 deg elevation/depretion, 2245mm turret ring. TKN-3 TC day/night sight, TSh2B-41 gunner day sight with 3.5/7x magnification, TPN1-41-11 night sight. 40 rounds ammo load. PKT coax with 2500 rounds. V-55V engine with 580hp. [email protected] glacis, 242mm max frontal turret.
Since 1969. DShKM AAMG was installed.
In 1975 KTD-1 LRF was installed.
None of those versions got any separate designation.*

T-62A (1962). Obj.164
This is NOT a designation aplied to a AAMG equiped T-62 but totaly diferent vehicle, armed with 100mm D-54TS gun, with "Kometa" two plane stabiliser.

T-62K (1964) - Obj.166K
Aditional R-112 radio, AB-1 APU. 36 x 115mm rounds, 1750 rounds for a coax PKT.

T-62K (1964) - Obj.166KN
+ TNA-2 navigation aids

T-62D (1983) - Obj.166D
1030M "Drozd" APS installed.

T-62D-1 (1983) - Obj.166D-1
With V-46-5M engine.

T-62M (1983) Obj.166M
Deep modernisation of the T-62.
Aditional armor on glacis and turret, aditional anti-mine protection for driver, 10mm reinforced rubber side skirts, 10mm anti-neutron-liner. Tracks from T-72, two aditional amortisers on 1st roadwheels. KTD-2 LRF, TShSM-41U gunner's sight, "Meteor M1" stabiliser, BV-62 balistic computer, 9K116-1 "Sheksna" guided missile unit. Gun thermal sleave, R-173 radio instead of R-123M and 620hp V-55U engine. 42 rounds of 115 ammo/missiles.

T-62M-1 - Obj.166M-1
With V-46-5M engine.

T-62M1 - Obj.166M1
No missile guidance.

T-62M1-1 - Obj.166M1-1
No missile guidance, V-46-5M engine.

T-62M1-2 - Obj.166M1-2
No missile guidance and no aditional armor.

T-62M1-2-1 - Obj.166M1-2-1
No missile guidance, no aditional armor, V-46-5M engine.

T-62MD (1983) Obj.166MD
T-62M version with "Drozd" APS instead of aditional turret armor.

T-62MD-1 - Obj.166MD-1
With V-46-5M engine

T-62MK - Obj.166MK
Command version, no missile guidance, TNA-2 navigation aids, aditional R-112 radio, AB-1 APU. Less main gun and coax ammo.

T-62MK-1 - Obj.166MK-1
With V-46-5M engine.

T-62MV (1985) - Obj.166MV
K-1 era instead of aditional armor.

T-62MV-1 - Obj.166MV-1
With V-46-5M engine

T-62M1V - Obj.166M1V
No missile guidance

T-62M1V-1 - Obj.166M1V-1
No missile guidance, V-46-5M engine.

*But look at "History of T-54/55" topic for posible designation for LRF equiped version.

Edited by bojan, 31 January 2007 - 0536 AM.

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 0645 AM

Unedumacatde me says that the T-62 is more of an evolution of the T-55. :unsure:


It's rather a Soviet panic reaction to the crisis of T-55 increasingly falling behind the threat armor while the new tank (what would become T-64) was being delayed and delayed and delayed.
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 0712 AM

It's rather a Soviet panic reaction to the crisis of T-55 increasingly falling behind the threat armor while the new tank (what would become T-64) was being delayed and delayed and delayed.


This reaction was apparently caused by the defection of a M60A1 and it's crew from Iran to USSR. The tank was tested and it was found that the 100mm gun had quite a bit of trouble to penetrate it (frontally). It is noteworthy that the T-62 was the first tank to introduce a smoothbore gun, the 115mm 2A20 gun.
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 1608 PM

Why wasn't the T-62 as widely exported and produced in other WP Countries as the T-54/55?
I once read that they weren't at all happy of the model and preferred to keep their 55s, but don't know if it's true.
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 1707 PM

http://www.historyof.../T62withERA.jpg
Any different designation for this vehicle (Iraqi? with K-5)? I found this one - T-62MB, but looks odd a bit :blink:



...or T-62MB is a matter of transcription mistake and that vehicle is T-62MV.

Edited by Przezdzieblo, 31 January 2007 - 1710 PM.

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 2211 PM

from FAS

T-62A: Besides the standard 7.62-mm PKT coaxial machine gun with a range of 1,000 meters, the T-62A version features a 12.7-mm DShK antiaircraft machine gun with a range of 1,500 meters against ground targets and a slant range of 1,000 meters against aircraft. The T-62A also has a stabilized main gun, which enables the gunner to track and fire on the move with significantly improved accuracy.

T-62K: Command tank models also have a land navigation system which includes a gyroscopic compass and a calculator giving continuous enroute readout of the tank's location (in relation to its point of origin) and its distance from and azimuth to a predetermined objective.

T-62M adds protection, FCS and ATGM capability.

T-62 variants with a V-46 T-72-type engine add -1 to their designation.

T-62M1: Variant with Volna FCS but no missile launch capability.

T-62D: Variant with the Drozd APS vs ERA.

T-62MK: Command variant.

T-62MV: Version with ERA in place of the bra armor. The ERA includes Kontakt ERA and Kontakt-5 2nd-Generation ERA.

From wikipedia

T-62 - early production version, had a 14.5 mm KPVT machine gun in coaxial mount instead of the more common SGMT 7.62 mm.

T-62A - Added 12.7 mm anti-aircraft machine gun (which is often removed in the field) and changed coaxial machine gun to PKMT 7.62 mm. Also added was a stabalized main gun which let the gunner fire while moving with significantly improved accuracy. Though still when firing ATGMs from the gun it would need to make a quick stop. All T-62s in Soviet service were converted to these specifications before 1970.

T-62K - Command tank with additional communications gear, recognizable by multiple radio antennas instead of just one.

T-62M - added laser range-finder, reactive armour.

T-62D - added 9K118 Sheksna laser-guided antitank missile system (AT-12 Swinger), which is fired through the gun tube.

T-62MV - T-62D produced for export, most of which were given to North Korea and Syria as military aid.

From militaryfactory.com

T-62 - Base production vehicle
T-62K - Commander's Vehicle
T-62D - Additional armor and specialized anti-tank system.
T-62D-1 - Updated T-62D variant with newer powerplant.
T-62M - Modifications including anti-tank defense system and added passive armor.
T-62M-1
T-62M1 - Updated engine; added passive armor
T-62M1-1 - Sans passive armor and anti-armor defense system.
T-62M1-2
T-62M1-2-1
T-62MV - Features explosive reactive armor

from armscontrol.ru

T-62 This is the basic T-62 model, which essentially was a stretched T-55 chassis, with a new suspension, and a new turret equipped with the U-5T (2A20) Rapira 115-mm smoothbore gun. The gun has the new Meteor two-axis stabilization system.

T-62K This is the command tank variant of the T-62, and like earlier types, has one additional R-122 radio, a TNA-2 navigation system, a 4-meter antenna, but less ammunition. The corresponding command tank for the T-62M is the T-62MK.

T-62M (Also called T-62A) This tank includes the addition of a 12.7-mm antiaircraft DShK machine-gun on the loader's hatch. This modification included modification of the turret right side.

T-62M Model 1975 This is the T-62M with the addition of the KTD-1 laser rangefinder over the main gun mantlet.

T-62E The war in Afghanistan forced the Soviets to up-armor their tanks to provide better protection from infantry antitank weapons, such as the RPG-7. This upgrade led to the BDD appliqu? armor package. This package consists of a panel of armor on the glacis plate, two panels of "horse-shoe" armor around the front of the turret, and an optional package of belly armor for anti-mine protection. The total package adds 3.9 tons to the weight of the vehicle.

T-62M1 This further modification of the T-62A includes much of the modifications added to the T-55 to make the T-55AM2PB. These improvements include the Volna fire control system with the BV-62 computer, Meteor M1 gun stabilization package, TShSM-41U sight, KDT-2 laser rangefinder and 1K13 guidance sight package. This tank is equipped with the AT-12 Sheksna laser-guided antitank guided missile, which operates in much the same way as the AT-10 STABBER ATGM. This tank also includes the uprated V-55U engine, and the R-173 radio system. This vehicle is also usually fitted with the BDD appliqu? armor package.

T-62MV This is the T-62M fitted with the ERA package found on the T-55MV.


Russian source I think is most accurate.
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Posted 01 February 2007 - 0635 AM

Why wasn't the T-62 as widely exported and produced in other WP Countries as the T-54/55?
I once read that they weren't at all happy of the model and preferred to keep their 55s, but don't know if it's true.


The T-62 wasn't worth the difference in price (40% IIRC). Bojan posted a comparison performed by the yugoslavians in the 1970s between the T-62 and T-55. The gun was ok but the ROF was low, protection was a bit better but not decisively. With good ammo the T-55 was ok to soldier on.

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 0646 AM

Russian source I think is most accurate.


Nope - all of those are badly copied ancient Janes, with one from Wikipedia being expecial rubish...
The designation I have posted are probably best you can find on the english part of the net.
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Posted 01 February 2007 - 0648 AM

This reaction was apparently caused by the defection of a M60A1 and it's crew from Iran to USSR.


Nope, if you check dates of Iranian M60A1 introduction to service you might note that it does not compare well to a T-62 inroduction to service (1961.)...

The tank was tested and it was found that the 100mm gun had quite a bit of trouble to penetrate it (frontally).

BK-5M HEAT would penetrate w/o large problems.

It is noteworthy that the T-62 was the first tank to introduce a smoothbore gun, the 115mm 2A20 gun.


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Posted 01 February 2007 - 0938 AM

This reaction was apparently caused by the defection of a M60A1 and it's crew from Iran to USSR. The tank was tested and it was found that the 100mm gun had quite a bit of trouble to penetrate it (frontally). It is noteworthy that the T-62 was the first tank to introduce a smoothbore gun, the 115mm 2A20 gun.


No, it was much worse than that. 100mm gun, using the AP ammo (all that was available at the time) couldn't cope even with with M48. 100mm HEAT rounds of the time could, but were not reliable and not available in sufficient numbers. On the other hand, while T-55 could marginally cope with 90mm hits, 105mm L7 gun hopelessly overmatched it, which made the problem of weak ammo even worse, and it was already determined that L7 will become a NATO-wide weapon. So long before M60A1 there was already a crisis that needed urgent solution, and that, at the time when Khrushchev effectively killed off armor development.
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Posted 01 February 2007 - 0941 AM

why act like wiki is set in stone?
i just took and removed the old rubbish version listing, and put in bojans description.
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Posted 01 February 2007 - 0958 AM

why act like wiki is set in stone?
i just took and removed the old rubbish version listing, and put in bojans description.


Yes, but now I can just take and put back the old rubbish version and my word will be as good as yours ;)
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Posted 01 February 2007 - 1027 AM

On the other hand, while T-55 could marginally cope with 90mm hits, 105mm L7 gun hopelessly overmatched it, which made the problem of weak ammo even worse,


Was the T-62 much better at coping with the 105mm gun? the protection in the hull was similar (and somewhat higher in the turret).
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Posted 01 February 2007 - 1112 AM

Was the T-62 much better at coping with the 105mm gun? the protection in the hull was similar (and somewhat higher in the turret).


It was better protected not by heavier armor, but by *much* longer reach of its armament. As you may realize, the two aspects go hand in hand. The Soviets believed T-55 firing AP ammo can only defeat lower front hull of M48, and even that only at 1200m. T-62 on the other hand could defeat M48 anywhere far beyond 2000m. In fact even M60 would be defeated beyond 2km anywhere except the glacis. This represents a major increase in capability.
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Posted 01 February 2007 - 1227 PM

T-62 on the other hand could defeat M48 anywhere far beyond 2000m. In fact even M60 would be defeated beyond 2km anywhere except the glacis. This represents a major increase in capability.


OK, I see what you mean. The T-62 gun also was much more accurate, especially below 1500 meters. The 100mm gun would start having trouble at 1000 meters.
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Posted 01 February 2007 - 1247 PM

...100mm HEAT rounds of the time could, but were not reliable and not available in sufficient numbers...


What was a problem with Soviet use of 100mm HEAT?
Those (BK-5 and BK-5M) sold to Yugoslvaia in 1961. worked w/o problem and with decent penetration...
Those were also reasonably well available, T-55 having 15 (later 18-20) in combat load...
What was a problem about poor availability? Price?
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Posted 01 February 2007 - 1736 PM

Those (BK-5 and BK-5M) sold to Yugoslvaia in 1961.


Given that BK-5 were to the best of my knowledge only fielded in 1968 I find this more than a little surprising.
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Posted 01 February 2007 - 1824 PM

Bojan, there was a T-62A (not to be confused with the other T-62A/M, that mounts the 12.7mm AAmg) that was armed with a 10mm T-55 gun? I assume this was some kind of prototype.

What sources are your information from?

It seems Bulgaria was the only Warsaw Pact nation to accept the T-62 into service. Any more info on numbers and introduction dates? or anything else? I've red one account from a Bulgarian tank crewman who wrote he was "in a t-62" during the 1968 intervention. Its suprising to me that Bulgaria should have gotten such and advanced tank, for its time, so early. Since, generally Bulgaria recieved older and not upto date soviet equipment.

Edited by Zampolit72, 01 February 2007 - 1827 PM.

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