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#61 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 0833 AM

Yes Chris, hilariously I have to admit I thought much the same thing. :D

 

Thanks for that BTW. I have to say im distinctly impressed by the quality of the videos being put up on you-tube. Information warfare isnt just working one way it seems.


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Posted 26 June 2016 - 0858 AM

Some good stuff here, other than the boring old secretary general.

 


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Posted 26 June 2016 - 0906 AM

There Ill leave it at that, I dont want to be accused of spamming. :)

 


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Posted 26 June 2016 - 0910 AM

Ok, last ones, promise this time...

 


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Posted 26 June 2016 - 1015 AM

The Turks. Please...carry handles and goofy helmets. In solidarity with Brexit I am having Orange Pekoe so no coffee keyboard.
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Posted 26 June 2016 - 1036 AM

Erdogan cannot into FU Russia? Shame on you Simon. :D

 

Yeah I cant say I was very impressed,hey look like bit part actors in a 70's episode of Dr Who with that kit. Urban camo would probably have been the last straw.


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#67 Chris Werb

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 1039 AM

The Turks. Please...carry handles and goofy helmets. In solidarity with Brexit I am having Orange Pekoe so no coffee keyboard.

 

And that oh so useful forward assist! :P


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Posted 26 June 2016 - 1158 AM

http://vod.tvp.pl/25654469/25062016

 

Newest episode of "Nasza Armia" (Our Army) documentary. There is some video material from Anakonda 2016 excercises. There is also material showing preparations for NATO summit and how National Stadium is prepared for it.


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#69 Simon Tan

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 2122 PM

Im sure that a brigade of Turks in Lithuania will be well received.
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Posted 27 June 2016 - 0448 AM

Far better than the brigade of Russians.


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Posted 27 June 2016 - 0456 AM

Oh I dont know, I  think the Lithuanian Forest brothers are not too worried whom they practice their skills on. :)

 

Speaking of which, been reading this at the moment. A fascinating read, in pretty much the same measure of absolutely horrifying. A must read I think.

https://www.amazon.c...8/dp/9639776580


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#72 Simon Tan

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Posted 27 June 2016 - 0736 AM

I wonder.....
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#73 Chris Werb

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Posted 27 June 2016 - 1723 PM

I wonder....

 

 

What is your specific concern Simon?


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Posted 27 June 2016 - 2126 PM

Carry handles and goofy helmets aside, the Turkish brigade will certainly be an interesting logistical problem given the cultural differences. Even if 'western' oriented units are selected for the job. It is no longer the Kemalist bastion.
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Posted 27 June 2016 - 2130 PM

I noticed a distinct lack of ATGM firing on armor. Surely it would be a brilliant way to use up expiring TOW stock not being supplied to AQ. It would test APS and give armor the experience of facing and fighting ATGMs.
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#76 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 28 June 2016 - 0306 AM

Maybe they dont have many left. I dont know what the US stocks of them post 2003 have been like.

 

Im not sure how relevant TOW is to the baltic states anyway. There cant be that many engagement zones were you are going to get 3000km+ kills.


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Posted 28 June 2016 - 0707 AM

Maybe they dont have many left. I dont know what the US stocks of them post 2003 have been like.
 
Im not sure how relevant TOW is to the baltic states anyway. There cant be that many engagement zones were you are going to get 3000km+ kills.


There are lakes, farming fields etc. It is not all dense dark forests. ;)

Also TOW has higher penetration than MILAN for example.
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Posted 28 June 2016 - 1217 PM

ATGM's were definately used in Poland, both TOW-2's as well as Javelin's. We also used Spike's. Dunno if ATGM's were used in Baltic states, but probably yes, not every excercise have a media cover.


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Posted 28 June 2016 - 1411 PM

Maybe they dont have many left. I dont know what the US stocks of them post 2003 have been like.

 

Im not sure how relevant TOW is to the baltic states anyway. There cant be that many engagement zones were you are going to get 3000km+ kills.

 

Plenty of Javelins were shot on Saber Strike 16

 

I dont think I've seen TOW video from Saber Strike 16. From last year yes

 

 

Estonia doesn't use TOW. Closest thing we currently have to TOW is MAPATS:

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3000m+ ranges do exist.  Mostly in northern Estonia. The most likely route of advancement for Russians is the main Narva-Tallinn highway,  over quite flat land and farmland opening up on sides of the road. Forest covers around 50% of Estonia.


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