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German Elections 2013

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#701 Stuart Galbraith

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 0536 AM

 

I agree though - he seems to be firmly encased in his Europe-as-an-ideology thought bubble that detaches him from what people actually want (and thus contributes to anti-European sentiment). And he doesn't get the wake-up call because public reaction seems to gloss over this aspect, maybe because some journalists secretly agree with such an agendy, or mostly because they don't take him seriously ("It's not gonna happen, anyway").

 

For not gonna happen he has too many connections within the EUrocracy. But then german public and press are often quite ignorant towards the EU and what is gong on there.

 

 

Not that different from here then. The only time we ever heard anything about Europe was in a negative sense. The media pretty much edited it out as unimportant.

 

This has always been my fear with the EU, less as it is but that it will be dragged by politicians with an agenda in a direction where its all going to fragment. And then Europe really will have problems.



#702 Markus Becker

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 0550 AM

I agree though - he seems to be firmly encased in his Europe-as-an-ideology thought bubble that detaches him from what people actually want (and thus contributes to anti-European sentiment). And he doesn't get the wake-up call because public reaction seems to gloss over this aspect, because journalists agree with such an agendy.


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Posted 15 December 2017 - 0613 AM

This issue continues to entertain. The organizers of the award sued against the event (which Senator Lederer called "a fair for conspiracy believers and tinfoil hats") at the Babylon being cancelled, and won in court; so it will take place in the originally planned venue, with British-Jewish pro-Palestinian jazz musician-activist Gilad Atzmon providing the soundtrack. Meanwhile lines are being drawn and media on the radical left and the adjacent nutbag continuum are taking positions; former official SED daily "Neues Deutschland" supports Lederer, as does "Friedensdemo-Watch", a group critical to the pro-Russian "peace vigils" around activist Jutta Ditfurth who left the Greens in 1991 because they had become too mainstream for her - they have called for a counter-demonstration to the protest by Jebsen supporters before the Left Party HQ.

 

In the pro-Jebsen camp we have Oskar Lafontaine, the godfather of the West German loon wing in the Left Party, the Querfront online magazine "Rubikon", and RT Deutsch; the latter just had an opinion article deploring the decay of political discussion and freedom of opinion in Germany being visible in this case by none other than Rainer Rupp, better known by his codename "Topaz" when he worked as a spy for the HVA of the Stasi at SHAPE. I can hardly wait for Thursday to roll around and see all these guys clash.

 

So after all the excitement, just before the award was to go down yesterday Jebsen announced that he wouldn't come to accept it. In a long-winded interview statement on RT Deutsch he said it was due to attention shifting from journalism to the artists like Gilad Atzmon and Dieter Dehm attending, and the way the presence of controversial participants was being used against him; in passing, and more directly in a meandering piece by "Rubikon", it also becomes clear that the various factions in the nutbag continuum all wanted to get their representants in, and nobody was prepared to yield, least of all the organizers to Jebsen's own wishes. Which is of course business as usual among fringebats. The center of the controversy seems to have been Atzmon, who was ultimately banned by the "Babylon" theater to enter their premises.

 

Jebsen initially said he would still speak at the protest before the Left Party HQ, but it turned out to be only an audio message of his being played. The demonstration unsurprisingly then became mostly anti-Israel, with another prominent Jewish anti-Zionist, Evelyn Hecht-Galinski (daughter of former Central Council of the Jews in Germany chairman Heinz Galinski and founder of the German chapter of the "Jewish Voice for a Just Peace in the Middle East"), stating that it was a legal right of protesters to burn Israeli flags as long as "the Jewish state was occupying Palestine". This was in reference to a current debate following such flag burnings during Muslim demonstrations against Trump's recognition of Jerusalem as the Israeli capital before the US embassy in Berlin this week. Burning foreign flags is currently legal unless they are on official display as national insignia by domestic or foreign authorities like embassies. Afterwards the Central Council of the Jews demanded to outlaw burning the Israeli flag, which in this selective way would likely be an unconstitutional special law; others have proposed to ban burning of foreign flags in general. Of course that would be a further limitation of free speech, though.



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Posted 16 December 2017 - 1920 PM

Hurrah! We have a revolution! The Young Socialists in Thüringen rebelled and defeated the the Social Democratic Anciem Regime with an anti Grand Coalition resolution. And the SPD from Nordrhein Westfalen seems to be headed in the same direction. Please let this be the beginning of a trend! 2nd coalition building fail. Oh, yes please.

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Posted Yesterday, 07:19 AM

Sometime you just want to watch whole world burn :)



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#707 Markus Becker

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Posted Yesterday, 08:39 PM

Sometime you just want to watch whole world burn :)


Oh no, not the world. The Brexit and the Polish government upset the EU, Trump upsets everybody, Czechoslovakia makes great beer and has pretty women, Hungary protects the German border and has pretty women. Serbia? Well I know of one and I'm confident there are more where she came from. :)




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