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#1301 RETAC21

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 1503 PM

 

 

How would a base in Greenland make sense without a Sino-Soviet alliance in place?

 
To a Nazi-Sino alliance, it would be a boost!
 
Greenland is never going to be a significant base for anything due to the weather and the terrain.
To operate flying saucers from?

Joking aside, Thule was a pretty significant air base with a deepwater harbour - allegedly the Northernmost in the World.

https://en.m.wikiped.../Thule_Air_Base

 

 

It was comparatively big, but only as a deployment base. Deploying and maintaining aircraft there must be a nightmare.


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 0219 AM

https://www.portsmou...a-sea-1-8559896 QUESTIONS over whether Britain should send a future fleet of Royal Navy ships to the South China Sea have been raised in the House of Lords.

Lord Wallace of Saltaire said committing a fleet to the region would put a strain on the navy’s ability to protect the seas around the UK.

 

The Lib Dem peer said: ‘We require virtually half of the British navy to commit to keeping three ships in the South China Sea. If we follow the Foreign Secretary’s promise – as we always do – and send an aircraft carrier with a full complement of support ships east of the Malacca Straits, with aircraft on board the carrier, that would be half of the British navy already.

 

‘Probably most of the British navy would be committed to the South China Sea. Is that really a strategic priority over the defence of our waters and the seas around Europe?​​​​​​​​​​​​​​’

 

However, Admiral Lord Alan West – former head of the navy – hit back and said it was vital Britain patrolled the region as trillions of pounds of trade passes through it.


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 0231 AM

https://www.portsmou...a-sea-1-8559896 QUESTIONS over whether Britain should send a future fleet of Royal Navy ships to the South China Sea have been raised in the House of Lords.

Lord Wallace of Saltaire said committing a fleet to the region would put a strain on the navy’s ability to protect the seas around the UK.

 

The Lib Dem peer said: ‘We require virtually half of the British navy to commit to keeping three ships in the South China Sea. If we follow the Foreign Secretary’s promise – as we always do – and send an aircraft carrier with a full complement of support ships east of the Malacca Straits, with aircraft on board the carrier, that would be half of the British navy already.

 

‘Probably most of the British navy would be committed to the South China Sea. Is that really a strategic priority over the defence of our waters and the seas around Europe?​​​​​​​​​​​​​​’

 

However, Admiral Lord Alan West – former head of the navy – hit back and said it was vital Britain patrolled the region as trillions of pounds of trade passes through it.

 

This is a completely cooked plan.


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 0705 AM

Tokyo. Japan will send a large helicopter carrier to the South China Sea and Indian Ocean for a second straight year as it looks to bolster its presence in the strategic maritime region with annual tours, two Japanese officials said.

"This is part Japan's efforts to promote a free and open Indo-Pacific," said one of the officials, who has direct knowledge of the plan for a two-month tour beginning in September.

The 248 meter-long Kaga, which can operate several helicopters simultaneously, will make stops in Southeast Asian countries such as Indonesia and at ports in India and Sri Lanka, said the sources who asked not to be identified because they are not authorized to speak to the media.

The Kaga, which will be accompanied by an escort ship, may also conduct ad hoc joint drills with warships from other counties in the region, they said.

Japan last year sent its sister ship, the Izumo, on a similar tour of the contested South China Sea and the Indian Ocean.

A spokesman for Japan's Maritime Self Defense Force said he was unable to comment on future operations.

Japan's growing visibility in those waters reflects concern it shares with the United States over China's military presence in a region through which trade routes pass that are vital to the Japanese and US economies.

China, which says its intentions are peaceful, claims most of the South China and has built bases on reefs and shoals it has reclaimed. China has also increased naval operations in the Indian Ocean.

The United States holds regular air and naval patrols in the South China Sea, saying it has to ensure freedom of navigation.

In May, it changed the name of its military Pacific Command headquarters in Hawaii to Indo-Pacific Command to signal a broader regional strategy that has been promoted by Japan and Australia, stretching from the Western Pacific to the Indian Ocean.

Japan has not taken part in the US freedom of navigation operations in the South China Sea because doing so could provoke China which could increase its military presence in the East China Sea where the rivals are locked in a dispute over ownership of uninhabited islets known as the Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China.

Tension

Amid growing tension over trade and Chinese suspicion of US intentions toward self-governing Taiwan, Chinese President Xi Jinping in June told US Defense Secretary Jim Mattis that China was committed to peace but would not yield "even one inch" of territory handed down by its ancestors.

Malaysia, Vietnam, the Philippines and Brunei also claim parts of the South China Sea, which has rich fishing grounds, as well as oil and gas deposits. Taiwan also claims the sea but Japan has no claim to any part of it.

In the Indian Ocean, tension between China and India has flared over China's growing presence in the Maldives, which despite long-standing political and security ties with India has signed up to China's Belt and Road initiative to build trade and transport links across Asia and beyond.

In order for Japan to take a wider regional role, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's government has stretched the limits of a post-war pacifist constitution by sending warships, planes and troops on overseas missions.

The Kaga, which is as big as any aircraft carrier operated by the Japanese Imperial Navy in World War II, is designated as a destroyer to keep it within the bounds of those constitutional restraints.

Based in Kure in western Japan, the Kaga was commissioned in March last year and its primary mission is anti-submarine warfare. Its tour of the South China Sea and Indian Ocean follows a two-month trip to the region from May by the Osumi, an amphibious transport ship.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 2144 PM

https://www.portsmou...a-sea-1-8559896 QUESTIONS over whether Britain should send a future fleet of Royal Navy ships to the South China Sea have been raised in the House of Lords.

Lord Wallace of Saltaire said committing a fleet to the region would put a strain on the navy’s ability to protect the seas around the UK.

 

The Lib Dem peer said: ‘We require virtually half of the British navy to commit to keeping three ships in the South China Sea. If we follow the Foreign Secretary’s promise – as we always do – and send an aircraft carrier with a full complement of support ships east of the Malacca Straits, with aircraft on board the carrier, that would be half of the British navy already.

 

‘Probably most of the British navy would be committed to the South China Sea. Is that really a strategic priority over the defence of our waters and the seas around Europe?​​​​​​​​​​​​​​’

 

However, Admiral Lord Alan West – former head of the navy – hit back and said it was vital Britain patrolled the region as trillions of pounds of trade passes through it.

 

 

I thought the plan was to build 12 T45s so that there would be enough escorts to deploy at least one carrier without using up the entire navy to escort it. Oh no, hang on, I thought the idea was that the UK would work with the EU navies and use their air warfare frigates to build multinational EU battlegroups. Oh wait, that's not going to happen now, is it? So what is the plan exactly?


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 2311 PM

BritaIn needs to stop pretending it is a global power and get back to being a country. Madness.
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 0338 AM

BritaIn needs to stop pretending it is a global power and get back to being a country. Madness.

 

Maybe they could get the US to loan them some escorts. After all, given that they chose to go with AEGIS instead of some European system, they should be able to interoperate easily.


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 0451 AM

BritaIn needs to stop pretending it is a global power and get back to being a country. Madness.

 

It nearly was, but then Croatia intervened...


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 1612 PM

BritaIn needs to stop pretending it is a global power and get back to being a country. Madness.


This. 👍👍👍
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Posted 13 July 2018 - 1613 PM


BritaIn needs to stop pretending it is a global power and get back to being a country. Madness.

 
Maybe they could get the US to loan them some escorts. After all, given that they chose to go with AEGIS instead of some European system, they should be able to interoperate easily.

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 1821 PM

 

 

BritaIn needs to stop pretending it is a global power and get back to being a country. Madness.

 
Maybe they could get the US to loan them some escorts. After all, given that they chose to go with AEGIS instead of some European system, they should be able to interoperate easily.

???????

 

 

Poor attempt at sarcasm.


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 1846 PM

OK 😁
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Posted 16 July 2018 - 1055 AM

How many times have the Chinese threatened commercial shipping passing through the disputed area?

Sure, send your navies there, waste your money, start a shooting war. Why not?


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Posted Yesterday, 12:25 PM

How many times have the Chinese threatened commercial shipping passing through the disputed area?

Sure, send your navies there, waste your money, start a shooting war. Why not?

 

 

The Nine Dash Line simply isn't our problem. Unless you're wanting to fish or extract oil and gas, it's nobody's problem.


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