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#3561 Simon Tan

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 1012 AM

KDG puts the ACR stock on a SCAR so you are good.

AR style charging handle is the dumbness. Beat the dumb SOB whole thought it was a good idea. 

Dirty Rus solved the problem with a tension lever on the AK74 modernization. Dirty Finns solved the problem in 1962.

Why steel stamping?

 

Barrel change looks like RPK16.



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Posted 06 November 2017 - 1258 PM

AR charging handle is idea from a one man from Zastava, unfortunately he had enough pull to get it. Originally it was supposed to have folding one on the left. He is also responsible for KeyMod.

Steel stamping is a temporary measure, in a future it is supposed to use Al/polymer receiver, but that is "when it happens it happened". Top cover is Al at least, unlike first prototypes where it was steel.


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Posted 10 November 2017 - 0914 AM

With carbine length barrel. Note rows of KeyMod slots both on the foregrip and "upper"). Lower rail is also mounted on KeyMod slots. Detail that escaped me previously is that stock folds to the left side.

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Simon, additional strengthening and one-piece top cover/"upper" is due the rifle grenades, those on standard AKs (even on Galil/R4) tend to get really wobbly when you use heavier ones... Don't forget R-4s were used and well liked locally. :)


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Posted 10 November 2017 - 1045 AM

Bojan & Simon. Is the H&K version literally Keymod or something horribly proprietary (I'm guessing it's the latter, given their track record).



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 0725 AM

Bojan & Simon. Is the H&K version literally Keymod or something horribly proprietary (I'm guessing it's the latter, given their track record).

 

Nether Bojan nor Simon ;), but HKeymod is a similar, but incompatible system developed around the same time. In their catalogues H&K offer the option for MLok or KEyMod as the customer wishes. They  would deliver Brown Bess with AN/PEQ-2 if the customer wanted it in high enough numbers. ;)



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 0747 AM

And if customer is "checked one". :)



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 0828 AM

For German SWAT units:

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Peters Suppressed Model 625 Revolver

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 1654 PM

Silencer on a revolver is possible but a PITA. Makes me wonder why they did not use a leveraction or mini bolt-action in the same caliber. Much easier to suppress.



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 1926 PM

Silencer on a revolver is possible but a PITA. Makes me wonder why they did not use a leveraction or mini bolt-action in the same caliber. Much easier to suppress.

Or just a 1911 with a can and slidelock if it's a 625-2 in .45 ACP. Or as you mentioned, a modernized version of the De Lisle carbine. I like the CZ 550/557, but any modern bolt action would be easy. As much as I like lever actions, the Marlin, Winchester and Rossi carbines all have problems, and none are good for rimless cases. 



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 2150 PM

Savage handled rimless cases w/o problem.



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 2151 PM

Silencer on a revolver is possible but a PITA. Makes me wonder why they did not use a leveraction or mini bolt-action in the same caliber. Much easier to suppress.

Possibly because its much easier to suppress and what's the fun in that?

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 2305 PM

Savage handled rimless cases w/o problem.

They had shoulders to headspace on. You can probably tweak the extractor and chamber to headspace off the case mouth. Just looked at my Win 94 Trapper in .45 Colt, Rossi 92 in .44 SPC and Marlin 95 in .45-70, the Winchester and Marlin bolts look pretty straightforward, not so sure about the Model 92.

 

Bigger problem is the complete lack of quality control on the Marlins since Remington took over about a decade ago, Rossi quality has always been spotty, and the Winchester has been out of regular production for a decade.



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Posted 17 November 2017 - 0415 AM

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