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#1 BansheeOne

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 1302 PM

Seems half of Europe chose today to hold elections. In France, inofficial exit poll results seem to indicate Sarkozy will be replaced by Socialist candidate Francois Hollande; this will have repercussions for the Euro crisis management, which so far has been driven by the conservative Merkel-Sarkozy axis. While they were all about reducing public spending, Hollande wants to increase it, even if it means raising debts.

In Greece, both Conservatives and Socialists got punished with heavy losses for the financial mess they created in turn over the last decades; the Socialist actually fell to third place, with the radical leftist party prominent in the public protests of the last months coming in second; they, of course, want to renegotiate the cost-cutting plans forced upon Greece by the EU. Fourth party in parliament will be from the extreme right; it's currently not clear whether the two former governing parties will even have enough seats to form another grand coalition government.

Less surprises in Serbia, where President Tadic and his moderate party are expected to be re-elected; the controversial point is that communities in Serbian-majority Northern Kosovo again participated in the elections in defiance of Pristina's claim to sovereignity. The German-Austrian KFOR operational reserve battalion, deployed last year due to the unrest over the takeover of border checkpoints to Serbia by the Kosovo government and relieved only a couple weeks ago by an Italian force, has been redeployed in anticipation of heightened tensions, leading to complaints about bad planning by soldiers and the Bundestag's defense ombudsman.

Lower on the scale, the Northern German state of Schleswig-Holstein also held elections today, foreshadowing those in Germany's most populous state of Northrhine-Westphalia next week. Preliminary results are bearing out predictions that the rise of the Pirate Party (an outgrowth of the internet generation defying classic left-right definition, in many respects libertarian but also representing that generation's sense of entitlement) makes traditional coalitions within the left and right camp difficult, and grand coalitions might be the order of the coming years. 16 months from national elections, it appears likely that Angela Merkel will stay chancellor next year, but with the Social Democrats instead of the free-market Liberals as junior partner.

Edited by BansheeOne, 06 May 2012 - 1540 PM.

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#2 Typhoid Maxx

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 1430 PM

Hollande won, Sarkozy congratulated.

Serbia's Tadic party is less moderate, more stands for sweet F all and thus can form a coalition with both Jesus Christ and Lucifer at the same time. 1/4 total votes, about a single 1% in front of rival previously-Ultra-Nationalist-Nazi-Now-Pro-European-Centre-Right turned Ghandi crack pot.

Kosovo is independent, in that sweet F all depends on Kosovo and Prishtina.
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#3 Corinthian

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 1536 PM

No more Carla Bruni? :(
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 1736 PM

They just couldn't handle a month of austerity so they reversed course and headed back the way that brought them to the problems they now have.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 1738 PM

Well, if the French are going to start borrowing to spend, that is not going to be good for the Spanish.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 2023 PM

And in the UK local council elections have occurred, with the liberal party (currently in a rather unpopular coalition with the conservatives) sinking with all hands. The conservatives have made large losses as well, losing 405 seats - and although boris johnson kept the mayorship of london it was incredible close, with only 3% between him and the labour candidate after second preference votes were counted. Turnout was embarrassingly low throughout, estimated at 32% - the lowest in local elections since 2000.

Also, Israel may be going to vote soon. The prime minister has called for an early election, possibly as soon as september.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 2035 PM

Which is why every res. aluf is talking about Iran.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 2111 PM

FINALLY going in the right direction...shit, thought things were looking towards stability...looking like a good Summer. Now, if something gets pulled during the Olympics...agitation in SA...funny ass crap, nukes are not the issue - puppet Iraq in Irans hands letting good will ambassadors spread the word as from Tehran with localised logistic and HUMINT support to the local pop means only a cretin would leave Iran standing.

Now, lets get popcorn and see how MId East gets FUBAR's just that little bit worse...
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 2126 PM

This may be just what the stock market needs to hit another low.
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#10 Typhoid Maxx

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 2206 PM

We can but hope, Mobius, we can but hope..."sigh" 50 years with fundamentalist Christians with their finger on the button and a belief in that wacky fire and brimstone ending and screwy Soviet Electronics going haywire and screaming pre emptive strike with Old Paranoid Bolsheviks making the call...Turkey, Cuba...

At time...felt like there was NO HOPE. Always dancing on the edge, too afraid to do more than peer like children into the void...might as well wait on an asteroid...now, maybe we get to the Main Event within my lifetime.

Edited by Typhoid Maxx, 06 May 2012 - 2207 PM.

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#11 BP

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 0621 AM

I thought this was a thread about Japanese porno movies.
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#12 Mr King

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 0642 AM

I thought this was a thread about Japanese porno movies.


Hahahahahahaa

When I first read the title I saw "Erections, Erections, Erections" please dont read into that lol.
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#13 Mobius

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 0930 AM

Old Paranoid Bolsheviks making the call...Turkey, Cuba...

Swell, now we get neobolsheviks running the place.
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#14 Mike Steele

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 0944 AM


Old Paranoid Bolsheviks making the call...Turkey, Cuba...

Swell, now we get neobolsheviks running the place.

Or evilllllll Republicans, take your pick.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 1012 AM

So between the Neo-Leninsists and the Neo-Reaganists, we could have a neo-Cold War. All you need now is neo-NewCoke. Of course it's a little different with much of NATO in deep economic malaise and social unrest.
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#16 Ivanhoe

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 1125 AM

So between the Neo-Leninsists and the Neo-Reaganists, we could have a neo-Cold War. All you need now is neo-NewCoke. Of course it's a little different with much of NATO in deep economic malaise and social unrest.


Well, there is an upside to a reprise of the Bad Old Days;

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 1156 AM

They just couldn't handle a month of austerity so they reversed course and headed back the way that brought them to the problems they now have.


You are kidding, right? The austerity doctrine after more than 2 years has already been proven a stark failure, as any student of 1929-39 could predict. The govt cutbacks, adding much to unemployment and lower output and bland consumerism, was supposed somehow to produce Confidence and the return of investors and a growth in the market. How much more do you want to wait?

Confidence is DOA as far as the finance industry is concerned, having already wrecked the train.

The apparent lack of any new tricks will cause either an admission that they were wrong, or a wholesale turnover in European regimes as they seek uncannily to tighten down even more.

Thank our USAian dumb luck that we did not follow this course, as even the Bush II Regime was loathe to deep-six the finance industry, although why Lehman Bros. had to be sacrificed remains a deep mystery.

Mr. Confidence will remain dead & buried until Europe remembers Mr. Keynes. The EU rules - especially for the EuroZone - were designed only for the good times, as in 'housing will never go down.' Time to loosen up!


Austerity Is So Wrong

http://www.thedailyb...s-so-wrong.html


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#18 Mobius

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 1344 PM


They just couldn't handle a month of austerity so they reversed course and headed back the way that brought them to the problems they now have.


You are kidding, right? The austerity doctrine after more than 2 years has already been proven a stark failure, as any student of 1929-39 could predict. The govt cutbacks, adding much to unemployment and lower output and bland consumerism, was supposed somehow to produce Confidence and the return of investors and a growth in the market. How much more do you want to wait?

Austerity Is So Wrong

http://www.thedailyb...s-so-wrong.html

Paul Krugman? America's worst economist! The Noble and NYT is proof enough. No mention of steps taken by the government's effort to open up their economies to freedom of employment. Austerity without economic freedom is worthless. You know it takes a judge's order to fire someone in Spain? Yeah, lots of free enterprise there. Then Krugman has the nerve to say the US attempted austerity. HA ha. Warren Buffet said this morning anytime the government spends more than they take in is "stimulus". You can call it austerity, cars for clunkers, investing in green jobs or anti-stimulus but it still is stimulus. The US is spending 8% more than it takes in.and has not stopped for 10 years. Stimulus has failed, not austerity.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 1422 PM

And in which way has austerity succeeded?
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 1424 PM

You are kidding, right? The austerity doctrine after more than 2 years has already been proven a stark failure, as any student of 1929-39 could predict.


Austerity? 1929-39?? If anything that period proved that keynesian stimulation and over-regulation didn't work. Just like it's not working now.
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