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#6261 JohnAbrams21

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 0536 AM

Anyone know when Iraq received T-72s? I was just watching a news video from 1980 on the first weeks of the Iran/Iraq war on the ThamesTV YouTube channel and in the video, two trucks with trailers went past, each Hauling early model T-72s with the Flipper armor plates.
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#6262 bojan

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 0542 AM

1981 IIRC.


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#6263 JohnAbrams21

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 0554 AM

1981 IIRC.

Check out this video and circa 1:55-1:57
https://youtu.be/GE8b_3yvoKc
Video from February 10th 1980 newscast.
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Posted 19 October 2019 - 1326 PM

Anyone know when Iraq received T-72s? I was just watching a news video from 1980 on the first weeks of the Iran/Iraq war on the ThamesTV YouTube channel and in the video, two trucks with trailers went past, each Hauling early model T-72s with the Flipper armor plates.

I think 1979-1980 for initial deliveries from Russia, with larger scale deliveries form 1982.

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 1044 AM

According to Zaloga, Iraq purchased its first batch of 100 T-72 Ural from USSR in 1979-1980. Subsequent delivery, this time T-72M, came from Poland in 1982, and later T-72M1. 


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#6266 JohnAbrams21

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 1322 PM

Thanks guys.
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#6267 shep854

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 1631 PM

Chieftain and Challenger gamboling around in a Type 59:


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#6268 Gavin-Phillips

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 1245 PM

Cracking video, really enjoyed that one.  I've always been hoping for such a look inside the turret of a T-62 and a discussion on the shell ejection system and how it works.  But awesome stuff none-the-less.


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#6269 Adam Peter

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 1410 PM

With silhouette comparison, self-digging, etc. One does not skip a gear when changing gears?

 


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#6270 Jim Warford

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Posted 30 October 2019 - 1406 PM

Regarding our discussion above...thanks to some critical translation support (thank you very much!) and some ongoing research, it can be confirmed that the SU-122-54 was not fitted with a stabilization system.

 

Still...this particular SU was intended from the very beginning to be an offensive weapon. As WWII closed, Russian tactics had already been developed for using assault guns as part of new offensive combined-arms teams and the success of that change led to a much wider distribution of these vehicles at all levels following WWII. 


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Posted 30 October 2019 - 1615 PM

Regarding our discussion above...thanks to some critical translation support (thank you very much!) and some ongoing research, it can be confirmed that the SU-122-54 was not fitted with a stabilization system.

 

Still...this particular SU was intended from the very beginning to be an offensive weapon. As WWII closed, Russian tactics had already been developed for using assault guns as part of new offensive combined-arms teams and the success of that change led to a much wider distribution of these vehicles at all levels following WWII. 

Jim, remember this is an ex-sailor asking this :). Was a weakness of the WW2 combined arms attack, a lack of self-propelled artillery capable of "long-range" -- longer than tank fighting ranges -- and an indirect fire capability?


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#6272 Simon Tan

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Posted 02 November 2019 - 1043 AM

Not really. SP arty was only really available to the UK and US. Germans had a whole Bn per Pz Div on paper.
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Posted 16 November 2019 - 1334 PM

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T-72B3 with Arena-M APS, field trials.


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Posted 17 November 2019 - 1018 AM

Russia started large tests of a next generation gun lunched missile 3UBK25 («Сокол-В»)

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https://btvtinfo.blo...ts-of-next.html


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#6275 TTK Ciar

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 1313 PM

At first I was amazed at the tiny size of those steering surfaces, but I suppose since it's gun-launched, it will start its journey well-aimed at the target in the first place and only small corrections will be needed.

Any idea what the missile body is made of (aluminum, composite)? Is that "three-degree tracking system" MEMS-based? And if so, are they importing the MEMS component?

So many questions..
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#6276 Gavin-Phillips

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 1422 PM

Russia started large tests of a next generation gun lunched missile 3UBK25 («Сокол-В»)

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https://btvtinfo.blo...ts-of-next.html

 

Fascinating article (plus an added bonus of being in English as well).  

 

At the risk of turning this into another tank-based APS thread; are current (or future) tank-launched ATGM's successful probability of engaging a target threatened by the increased usage of active protection systems? 

 

Its also interesting to read that a T-80 has been fitted with the same 2A82 gun as that which the T-14 "Armata" uses.  A testbed vehicle then? 


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#6277 Stefan Kotsch

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 1805 PM

I read, either T-80 with 2A46Mx or open lafette with 2A82
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#6278 Jim Warford

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 0003 AM

 

Regarding our discussion above...thanks to some critical translation support (thank you very much!) and some ongoing research, it can be confirmed that the SU-122-54 was not fitted with a stabilization system.

 

Still...this particular SU was intended from the very beginning to be an offensive weapon. As WWII closed, Russian tactics had already been developed for using assault guns as part of new offensive combined-arms teams and the success of that change led to a much wider distribution of these vehicles at all levels following WWII. 

Jim, remember this is an ex-sailor asking this :). Was a weakness of the WW2 combined arms attack, a lack of self-propelled artillery capable of "long-range" -- longer than tank fighting ranges -- and an indirect fire capability?

 

 

Rick; sorry for the delay (I almost missed this one)...I'm not really a WWII artillery expert. I'm sure some other folks can provide some valuable insights.  :) 


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#6279 Rick

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 0443 AM

No problem Jim. Thank you for your informative posts. 


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#6280 Harkonnen

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 1208 PM

It is ballistic rig with 2a82, not t80.


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