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#41 Panzermann

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Posted 05 July 2016 - 0513 AM

the DST rubber track (Diehl sold its track business to KMW)

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"RUBBER BAND TRACK SEGMENT"
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Posted 05 July 2016 - 1847 PM

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Posted 05 July 2016 - 1854 PM

Does still make sense to do tracked vehicles at this weight?


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#44 Simon Tan

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Posted 05 July 2016 - 2336 PM

Class 30? Yes...if you want any sort of decent off road mobility.
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Posted 06 July 2016 - 0355 AM

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Wrong Phase - that's Rheinmetall's proposed ASLAV replacement (Phase 2). Nice pic, though.
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Posted 10 July 2016 - 1551 PM

From Jane's IDR

Rheinmetall Defence has developed the Lynx infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) as a private venture and following initial shake down trials launched it on the international market in June 2016. Lynx is being aimed at potential export customers looking for a tracked armoured fighting vehicle (AFV) with a modular design. The design will enable it to be used for the full spectrum of military operations, whilst the use of common components will reduce through-life costs. Rheinmetall is marketing two versions of Lynx called the KF 31 and KF 41 with the KF standing for Kettenfahrzeug - tracked vehicle in German.
While conventional in appearance, under its skin Lynx has a number of innovative features which pull together expertise from across Rheinmetall, not only the platform and turret, but also the key areas of sensors, weapons, and ammunition. The internal configuration sees dismounts seated down either side facing inwards on blast attenuating seats that fold upwards when not required, and there is a power-operated ramp in the hull rear. The hull is all-welded steel armour to which a modular armour protection package (MAP) can be added, with spall liners fitted internally. The double floor is stated to provide a higher level of protection against mines and improvised explosive devices. The shape of the hull makes it easier to add passive armour, explosive reactive armour, or a mix of both, to provide a higher level of survivability.

Lynx can be fitted with the Rheinmetall hard-kill Active Defence System (ADS) or a soft-kill ADS based on the Rheinmetall Rapid Obscurant System (ROSY) linked to the laser and acoustic sensors on the turret. The upper part of the hull above the troop compartment has protection against top-attack weapons, such as bomblets, which have proven to be highly effective during operations in Ukraine. The driver is seated front left. The new powerpack to the right consists of a Liebheer diesel engine coupled to an Allison X300 series automatic transmission. The 700-litre-plus fuel tanks are located in the sponsons with an additional large reserve fuel tank in the engine bay. The exhaust (right) and engine cooling (left) are routed to the rear to reduce its thermal and acoustic signature. It has a torsion bar-type suspension. Each side of the vehicle has six dual rubber-tyred road wheels with the drive sprocket at the front, idler at the rear, and track return rollers. The first example in the KF 31 configuration is fitted with the latest Defence Service Tracks (previously Diehl) segmented rubber band tracks. The segmented rubber band tracks have a number of advantages over conventional steel tracks including, lower weight, and less noise, vibration and rolling resistance, which gives improved fuel economy and therefore greater range.
KF 31 has a crew of three and carries six dismounts when fitted with the Lance turret, whilst KF 41 has a longer hull for more internal volume and has a crew of three and eight dismounts when fitted with the Lance turret.

Rheinmetall's Lance Modular Turret System (MTS) equips the vehicle, which has already been supplied to Spain for installation on its General Dynamics European Land Systems - MOWAG Piranha 3C 8x8 amphibious armoured personnel carrier (APC). The Lance MTS fitted to Lynx is armed with a 35 mm Air Bursting Munition (ABM) dual-feed cannon. However, the turret design enables other weapons, such as the Mauser 30 mm 30-2 ABM, to also be integrated. Turret traverse is all electric, with manual back up, and elevation from -10° to 45°. Mounted coaxially to the right is the latest Rheinmetall Machine Gun 7.62 which can fire standard 7.62x51 mm NATO ammunition at a maximum rate of 800 rds/min. This weapon is externally powered and features three barrels, which the company states can be changed while under armour in less than five seconds. Rheinmetall ROSY 40 mm electrically operated grenade launchers are mounted on the turret and can be coupled to laser detectors. Mounted on the left of the turret is a pod of two anti-tank guided weapons, which would usually be selected by the end user. If required, the Lance MTS could be fitted with a roof-mounted remote weapon station armed with a 7.62 mm or .50 calibre machine gun.
While the first example of the Lynx AIFV is fitted with the Lance manned turret, it could be fitted with the unmanned turret or other turrets specified by the user. The heart of the Lynx turret is its computerised fire-control system and associated Stabilised Electro Optical Sight System from Rheinmetall Defence Electronics. Both have day/thermal sighting systems that incorporate a laser rangefinder. The commander has a roof-mounted panoramic sighting system. Automatic Target Recognition and Automatic Target Tracking are standard on the first Lynx.

The platform is also fitted with the Rheinmetall Situational Awareness System that provides the crew with a full 360° view. Colour images are displayed on flat-panel displays at commander, gunner, and driver stations. There is an additional flat-panel display in the rear troop compartment for the dismounts. Lynx also has a Rheinmetall Acoustic Sniper Locating System which alerts the crew to incoming small-arms fire and slews the turret onto the threat for subsequent engagement. Further standard equipment includes a climate control/nuclear, biological, chemical (NBC) system installed in the left sponson, battle management system, radios and intercom, although in many cases these would be selected by the user. Lynx has an electronic architecture to enable different sub-systems to be plugged in, which means there is growth potential.
The gross vehicle weight depends on the weapon system fitted and the MAP. A key feature of the Lynx design is that it can be adopted for multiple battlefield missions by using a Mission Kit for each role. These include reconnaissance, command and control, repair and recovery, joint fires, engineer, APC, and ambulance with a raised roof line to provide greater interior volume. Lynx could also be a weapons carrier and would therefore be fitted with 81 mm or 120 mm mortar systems. The latter would fire through open hatches or from a turret-mounted mortar system.


Versions Lynx KF 31 Lynx KF 41
Crew 3 + 6 3 + 8
Length 7.22 m 7.73 m
Width 3.60 m 3.60 m
Height 3.30 m 3.30 m
Combat weight 38,000 kg 44,000 kg
Power-to-weight ratio 19.86 hp/t 21.34 hp/t
Engine diesel 755 hp diesel 939 hp +
Transmission automatic automatic
Max speed 65 km/h 70 km/h
Gradient 60% 60%
Side slope 30% 30%
Trench 2.50 m 2.50 m
Vertical obstacle 1 m 1 m
Fording 1.50 m 1.50 m


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Posted 11 July 2016 - 2011 PM

"RUBBER BAND TRACK SEGMENT"

 

Well, segmented rubber band tracks were an obvious solution to an obvious problem.

The old continuous band tracks were almost impossible to carry along as spares, while segments carried on the hull may even be relevant as anti-HEAT add-on armour.


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Posted 12 July 2016 - 0704 AM


"RUBBER BAND TRACK SEGMENT"

 
Well, segmented rubber band tracks were an obvious solution to an obvious problem.
The old continuous band tracks were almost impossible to carry along as spares, while segments carried on the hull may even be relevant as anti-HEAT add-on armour.

Also easier repair of mine hits.
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 2038 PM

Okay, now that Phase 2 (ASLAV replacement with CRV) has selected a Rheinmetall product, Phase 3 (M113 replacement with IFV) is acheduled to go to market in the next few months.

Artefacts from phase 2 that may be relevant:

- the Lance turret of the Boxer may become a specified product for Phase 3 (unlikely, but who knows);
- the Phase 2 solution may be offered to meet the Phase 3 requirement.
- the 8 dismount requirement has been overtaken by the re-role of three of Australias six regular infantry battalions (excluding 2 RAR [Amphib]) into mech battalions. This means that the crew doesnt come from the ACR, it comes from the parent battalion. Section (squad) size is three groups of three.
- calibre may become specified as 30 x 173 mm has been selected.
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Posted 05 June 2018 - 0523 AM

The KF41 (stretched Lynx) is being unveiled next week.
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Posted 05 June 2018 - 0917 AM

Not only that, but it also will feature the new LANCE 2.0 turret. Makes me wonder if Australia might be interested to change the specifications of the Boxer CRV to include the newer generation of turret.


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Posted 05 June 2018 - 1207 PM

Not only that, but it also will feature the new LANCE 2.0 turret. Makes me wonder if Australia might be interested to change the specifications of the Boxer CRV to include the newer generation of turret.


That would only be after the CRV enters service. Better yet, keep the current turret, skip a generation, and buy the next big upgrade after the Lance 2.0.
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Posted 05 June 2018 - 1335 PM

Not only that, but it also will feature the new LANCE 2.0 turret. Makes me wonder if Australia might be interested to change the specifications of the Boxer CRV to include the newer generation of turret.


Im looking forward to seeing that.
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Posted 12 June 2018 - 1043 AM

https://imgur.com/gallery/QpLTD9e

My Lynx KF41 album.
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Posted 12 June 2018 - 1158 AM

https://imgur.com/gallery/QpLTD9e

My Lynx KF41 album.

 

Thanks for taking the photographs. And good that you photographed the sign with name and some technical data. Many forget this. :)

 

 

That rear overhang and narrow ramp look problematic to me. The big butt might hang up on a ditch or prevent driving off a rail car sideways. That narrow ramp looks, well, narrow and no fun dismounting with unwieldy gear.

 

 

 

 

You are at Eurosatory2018 at the moment?


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Posted 12 June 2018 - 1737 PM


https://imgur.com/gallery/QpLTD9e

My Lynx KF41 album.

 
Thanks for taking the photographs. And good that you photographed the sign with name and some technical data. Many forget this. :)
 
 
That rear overhang and narrow ramp look problematic to me. The big butt might hang up on a ditch or prevent driving off a rail car sideways. That narrow ramp looks, well, narrow and no fun dismounting with unwieldy gear.
 
 
 
 
You are at Eurosatory2018 at the moment?
No problem, thanks for the kind words. Yes, Im at Eurosatory for Monday - Wednesday (last day today).

In between meetings, Im trying to get pics of the Land 400 Phase 3 potential contenders.

Speaking of: ASCOD. https://imgur.com/gallery/E6mbpBC

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Posted 23 July 2018 - 1315 PM

https://www.rheinmet...nd400/index.php

https://www.seek.com...iserid=38063626

 

Rheinmetall is looking for employees  working in Germany as well as in AUstralia to build the LAND400 vehicles.


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Posted 23 July 2018 - 1320 PM

I think thats more about Phase 2 (Boxer):

http://www.tank-net....l=&fromsearch=1
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 1336 PM

I think thats more about Phase 2 (Boxer):

http://www.tank-net....l=&fromsearch=1

 

yes you are right. oops. picked the wrong new kangaroo taxi.


Edited by Panzermann, 23 July 2018 - 1353 PM.

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