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Posted 15 June 2019 - 0219 AM

Jordan Peterson has apparently announced a new Social Media Platform. It will monetize creators BUT will specifically have a free speech concept at it's core.

Thinkspot. Not up yet however.

https://www.ts.today

https://www.newsbust...tform-thinkspot
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Posted 15 June 2019 - 1008 AM

Our corporate masters have a lot of work to do to prepare for the 2020 election. Look for conservative voices to be all but silenced before we get too far into 2020. They can't afford to allow alternate views to get out, let alone word of the election malfeasance of the Left to be disseminated.


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Posted 16 June 2019 - 0150 AM

I strongly suspect they're going to overplay their hand.
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Posted 16 June 2019 - 0652 AM


More leftist attacks on Free Speech.  They really are the enemy of the people:  https://pjmedia.com/...orship-iceberg/

 
Censorship is so inclusive. 

Welcome to the free market. Exclusionary speech is a bad business model.
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Posted 16 June 2019 - 0828 AM

Our corporate masters have a lot of work to do to prepare for the 2020 election. Look for conservative voices to be all but silenced before we get too far into 2020. They can't afford to allow alternate views to get out, let alone word of the election malfeasance of the Left to be disseminated.

 

We are heading for an American Samizdat. 


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Posted 16 June 2019 - 0946 AM

 

Our corporate masters have a lot of work to do to prepare for the 2020 election. Look for conservative voices to be all but silenced before we get too far into 2020. They can't afford to allow alternate views to get out, let alone word of the election malfeasance of the Left to be disseminated.

 

We are heading for an American Samizdat. 

 

 

Bring back the pamphleteers!

 

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Posted 16 June 2019 - 1600 PM


From a network nerd's POV, what we will be seeing over the next decade is an evolution towards a peer-to-peer network, rather than centralized.

IOW, GPG instead of S/MIME.
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Posted 16 June 2019 - 1800 PM

GPG is fine for small groups, but it doesn't scale well. If that's your path to the future, Facebook's continued dominance is guaranteed.


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Posted 16 June 2019 - 1953 PM

Any attempt to produce a non-SJW social media platform will be de-platformed by Big SJW, which will eventually include Tier 1 thru Tier 3 ISPs.

 

Either conservatives and libertarians find a way to "route around the damage" or accept that one by one every nation on Earth will go all 1984.

 
 


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Posted 17 June 2019 - 0729 AM

GPG is fine for small groups, but it doesn't scale well. If that's your path to the future, Facebook's continued dominance is guaranteed.

 

It is especially uncomfortable to use PGP or GPG. People are lazy. For most purposes Facebook works for them.

 

Really, in Germany at least everyone knows how bad Facebook is in many ways, but still most all are there and they look at me funny, when I tell them I am not there.


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Posted 12 July 2019 - 1008 AM

As someone else put it - censoring a conference about censoring 

 

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Posted 12 July 2019 - 1753 PM

From a network nerd's POV, what we will be seeing over the next decade is an evolution towards a peer-to-peer network, rather than centralized.

IOW, GPG instead of S/MIME.


Agreed.

There are already movements in this direction. WhatsApp and Signal use end-to-end encryption, admittedly through centralized servers. But the advantage of E2E crypto is that the servers don't have to be trusted; each participant can guarantee with their own resources that any message received was sent by the keyholder, and that the message was not altered. The server facilitating message transport cannot decrypt the messages.

Moving from centralized servers to P2P isn't a big step. Various "decentralized web" efforts are essentially that, though by "decentralized" they really mean servers which facilitate transferring users' content to a distributed storage system, a la Solid: https://en.wikipedia...zation_project)

GPG as an illustration of P2P/E2E is problematic, since its usability suffers from having to be shoehorned into the legacy email system. As others have pointed out, this puts a lot of burden on end-users to exchange keys and the like. Signal and WhatsApp demonstrate that the same kind of cryptosystem can be fairly painless to use if you're writing your own app from scratch and don't have to deal with legacy muck.

There are smart people working hard to bring everyday people a secure, decentralized network, but also well-meaning people tossing wrenches in the works over concerns about network governability and law enforcement. I think we'll get there eventually.

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Posted 12 July 2019 - 1847 PM

From Moody Radio is where I heard of this,

 

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Posted 12 July 2019 - 2247 PM

 

From a network nerd's POV, what we will be seeing over the next decade is an evolution towards a peer-to-peer network, rather than centralized.

IOW, GPG instead of S/MIME.


Agreed.

There are already movements in this direction. WhatsApp and Signal use end-to-end encryption, admittedly through centralized servers. But the advantage of E2E crypto is that the servers don't have to be trusted; each participant can guarantee with their own resources that any message received was sent by the keyholder, and that the message was not altered. The server facilitating message transport cannot decrypt the messages.

Moving from centralized servers to P2P isn't a big step. Various "decentralized web" efforts are essentially that, though by "decentralized" they really mean servers which facilitate transferring users' content to a distributed storage system, a la Solid: https://en.wikipedia...zation_project)

GPG as an illustration of P2P/E2E is problematic, since its usability suffers from having to be shoehorned into the legacy email system. As others have pointed out, this puts a lot of burden on end-users to exchange keys and the like. Signal and WhatsApp demonstrate that the same kind of cryptosystem can be fairly painless to use if you're writing your own app from scratch and don't have to deal with legacy muck.

There are smart people working hard to bring everyday people a secure, decentralized network, but also well-meaning people tossing wrenches in the works over concerns about network governability and law enforcement. I think we'll get there eventually.

 

 

Interesting post, now I have stuff to research.


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