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#41 rmgill

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 1123 AM

I remember seeing a bunch of revolver rifles in the Red Army museum in Moscow similar to that as well as a bunch of 'carbines' similar in size to most lever actions.

Always wondered why they didn't take off.


This is what you get with moderate loads and modern machining tolerances.

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Here's a larger load with possibly looser tolerances.

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Do you want your hand and face close to that with a rifle load?

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 1248 PM

My Nagant revolver pushes the cylinder forward into a cone to prevent gas loss. To be fair the round needs all the help it can get...

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 1309 PM

Chain fire was pretty much eliminated in pistols with the right kind of wadding; I wonder why it persisted in the rifles.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 1311 PM

My Nagant revolver pushes the cylinder forward into a cone to prevent gas loss. To be fair the round needs all the help it can get...

But then, presumably you don't need a whole lot to inspire reluctant soldiery.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 1344 PM

But then, presumably you don't need a whole lot to inspire reluctant soldiery.


Jokes aside, the barrel can be threaded and silencer added to produce a silent revolver that keeps its brass with it.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 1840 PM

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Looks like the result of a drunken party between a Beretta M92 and a P-38

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 2231 PM

Jokes aside, the barrel can be threaded and silencer added to produce a silent revolver that keeps its brass with it.

It is certainly an ingenious attempt to maximize the cartridge's performance. It would be fun to use a suppressed Nagant in movies, to see how alert gun enthusiasts are. :P

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 2232 PM

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Looks like the result of a drunken party between a Beretta M92 and a P-38

I thought of that as well, but would still lean towards the DE.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 2317 PM

Suppressed Nagant:



There are several similar videos on You Tube.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 2350 PM

There´s the Calico M960 with its helicoidal magazine.
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Posted 29 September 2011 - 0136 AM

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Looks like the result of a drunken party between a Beretta M92 and a P-38


I was thinking desert eagle and a P38.

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 0415 AM

It is certainly an ingenious attempt to maximize the cartridge's performance. It would be fun to use a suppressed Nagant in movies, to see how alert gun enthusiasts are. :P


As Bob posted, its been done. Look it up on youtube; Also, the Nagant will fire the .32 H&R Magnum and the .32 Smith & Wesson (also the long) - with the caveat = jacketed hollow points or full jackets only, NO lead bullets. Lead fouling builds up fast, and can lead to chamber binding.

.32ACP can work, though not consistently; Saying that, a cylinder change will turn it into a reliable .32ACP revolver.

For a suppressed weapon, perfectly adequate. I'd have one and would mod the Hell out of it in a heartbeat...if I could.

Alas. these Emerald Green Sceptered Isles think ordinary people become Demons if allowed firearms.

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 0512 AM

And this is something I had never even heard of, the Porter Revolving Turret Rifle.


Reminds me of the mid/late 17th century repeating flintlock guns with separate ball and powder tube magazines in the forearm and/or buttstock feeding a rotating breechblock that gets moved by a crank or lever-action type handle. Obviously quite complicated mechanisms of dubious reliability, not fit for mass production and use back then.

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 0729 AM

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Looks like the result of a drunken party between a Beretta M92 and a P-38


Per IMDB: The "Podbyrin 9.2 mm" is a fictional Russian handgun that was made up as a prop for the movie Red Heat. It is actually an IMI Desert Eagle and a Walther P38 with a custom barrel and other completely custom elements, put together to look like a Soviet weapon.

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 0747 AM

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I'll also mention the Reising sub-gun. While fine in a clean, civilian environment, it was a failure in the harsh environment of combat.
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Evidently was not a bad gun for 'shipboard' use, boarding parties and the like, not too much mud / sand on board a ship.

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 0807 AM

Evidently was not a bad gun for 'shipboard' use, boarding parties and the like, not too much mud / sand on board a ship.

Agreed. It was originally designed for police work, and some were used into the Fifties, at least.

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 0811 AM

Does this count?
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Massive Homemade 12 Gauge Revolver
"A Brazilian drug dealer was captured earlier this month along with his gigantic homemade 11 lbs revolver. The revolver chambers five 2.75" 12 gauge cartridges."

http://www.thefirear...gauge-revolver/

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 0840 AM

Agreed. It was originally designed for police work, and some were used into the Fifties, at least.


In parallel to the Royal Navy Lanchester as a shipboard machine pistol / submachine gun. The Lanchester also had a bayonet lug, which would have been of some use by boarding parties as an effective form of 'crowd control' against merchant ship crews.

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 1017 AM

Does this count?

Massive Homemade 12 Gauge Revolver
"A Brazilian drug dealer was captured earlier this month along with his gigantic homemade 11 lbs revolver. The revolver chambers five 2.75" 12 gauge cartridges."

http://www.thefirear...gauge-revolver/


..."sigh" Hate crap like that. What jackass thought it was a better idea to build such a mess and lug that perversity than walk around with an AK?

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 1135 AM

..."sigh" Hate crap like that. What jackass thought it was a better idea to build such a mess and lug that perversity than walk around with an AK?

Makes a hell of a snake gun, though! Bet you it has a better spead than an AK.^_^




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