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#1 Simon Tan

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Posted 07 July 2017 - 2336 PM

What happened to all the RPG-16s after they were withdrawn from service? 



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Posted 08 July 2017 - 0616 AM

AFAIK still stored. Few pics popped from Ukraine in 2014 but only in the early phases.



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Posted 08 July 2017 - 0951 AM

I wonder if the Russians have made a deal with the States not to supply those to anyone likely to misuse them vs the US/Coalition on condition that the US does likewise with some of its own kit?



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Posted 08 July 2017 - 1030 AM

Why was it withdrawn from service?  Any ideas on what replaced it?



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Posted 08 July 2017 - 1034 AM

Why was it withdrawn from service?  Any ideas on what replaced it?

RPG-7. 16 initially was better(comparable pen and much better range and trajectory). But 16 grenades was caliber instead of overcaliber 7, and this was deadend in terms of making new grenades with better penetration.

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Posted 08 July 2017 - 1220 PM

 

Why was it withdrawn from service?  Any ideas on what replaced it?

RPG-7. 16 initially was better(comparable pen and much better range and trajectory). But 16 grenades was caliber instead of overcaliber 7, and this was deadend in terms of making new grenades with better penetration.

 

That would make sense then.  When I first saw a picture of a tandem-HEAT grenade for the RPG-7, I couldn't believe how large the round actually was.  And some of the HE or thermobaric rounds aren't exactly small either - so it does make sense.

 

It does seem a bit strange, however, that there have been so many RPG's produced through the years which look somewhat like the American M72 LAW design rather than the more recognisable RPG-7 one?



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Posted 08 July 2017 - 1318 PM

 

It does seem a bit strange, however, that there have been so many RPG's produced through the years which look somewhat like the American M72 LAW design rather than the more recognisable RPG-7 one?

 

 

Anyone who wants that uses a RPG-7 variant. Lots on offer from all manner of manufacturers. And e.g. for the Carl-Gustaf series there are over caliber warheads. there have been others. Like the german PzF-3 and

Lanze with over caliber warheads.

 

 

the tubular launchers with warhead contained within have the advantage of being easier to handle and being better protected from the elements. They are closed tubes and disposed after use.  So not to worry if something gets in there. Downside is that after a certain nuber of rounds, the weight of all the empty tubes is quite a brden comapred to one single RPG with reloads.



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Posted 08 July 2017 - 1545 PM

 

 

It does seem a bit strange, however, that there have been so many RPG's produced through the years which look somewhat like the American M72 LAW design rather than the more recognisable RPG-7 one?

 

 

Anyone who wants that uses a RPG-7 variant. Lots on offer from all manner of manufacturers. And e.g. for the Carl-Gustaf series there are over caliber warheads. there have been others. Like the german PzF-3 and

Lanze with over caliber warheads.

 

 

the tubular launchers with warhead contained within have the advantage of being easier to handle and being better protected from the elements. They are closed tubes and disposed after use.  So not to worry if something gets in there. Downside is that after a certain nuber of rounds, the weight of all the empty tubes is quite a brden comapred to one single RPG with reloads.

 

Thank you for that explanation.  That makes alot of sense really.  Certainly the packs that are designed to carry one or two RPO-M thermobaric single-shot launchers do look particularly bulky, with only the trigger unit being reusable.  That combined with the rest of the kit that a soldier requires, certainly must amount to some weight.



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Posted 08 July 2017 - 1602 PM

RPG-16 would still be perhaps useful as a support weapon using thermobaric/HE-frag rounds, even if it is surpassed for AT work.



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Posted 08 July 2017 - 1634 PM

It was very popular in Afghanistan for infantry support and was regularly carried even on small patrols, unlike RPG-7.



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Posted 08 July 2017 - 2022 PM

Was there an OG-16 round? Was it breech fed like the SPG-9? It looks really like a handy SPG-9

 

 

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Posted 09 July 2017 - 0200 AM

I think Isby said that the Mujaheddin did capture some, but they didnt much use it. I guess ammunition for the RPG7 was far more available.



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Posted 09 July 2017 - 0710 AM

Was there an OG-16 round? 

 

 

PG-16V HEAT only.



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Posted 09 July 2017 - 0924 AM

That's stoopid. 100k surplus RPGs to be exploited.



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Posted 10 July 2017 - 1452 PM

That's stoopid. 100k surplus RPGs to be exploited.

 

I agree.  Wouldn't the MVD have a use for them?  They famously used older T-62 tanks during the Chechnya campaigns (probably use T-72's now) but would it at least work well enough for Russia's internal Government forces?






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