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#1 Chris Werb

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 1556 PM

The defining capability of so called 5th generation anti tank missiles is arguably networked capability. At least two such missiles exist - the MBDA MMP and the Spike LR II. 

 

What I would like to know is how does third party targeting actually work with these systems?



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Posted 11 July 2017 - 1628 PM

For MMP, the missile has a fibre-optic datalink which relays imagery back to the launcher. One could imagine any sort of target cuing from a visual description, through to target GPS co-ordinates. For NLOS engagements, it can be lofted then lock-on-after-launch.

 

The second iteration of Spike LR appears to have an IMU to allow for the latter type of targeting. Presumably one flies out to wards the target coordinates and then the solution is refined by the operator.

 

Essentially, these two seem to be very similar, although the second gen Spike LR has a longer declared range, which might be because it is notably lighter.



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Posted 22 July 2017 - 2245 PM

What about off-route?  Your missiles are set up well in advance of a unit with a long fiber-optic guidance, or wireless (subject to interception and jamming I realize), while your ATGW crew is a ways away?



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Posted 23 July 2017 - 0735 AM

It would be better still the have missiles distributed in individual launchers that lacked any direct fire optics, TI etc. distributed and fibre-optically or perhaps LPI datalink connected. They could also be mounted in very small numbers on pick-up trucks, quad bike trailers etc. so the most an individual hit would ever take out is a few missile rounds (one in the case of a SAM or MRLS analog).



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Posted 23 July 2017 - 1715 PM

It would be better still the have missiles distributed in individual launchers that lacked any direct fire optics, TI etc. distributed and fibre-optically or perhaps LPI datalink connected. They could also be mounted in very small numbers on pick-up trucks, quad bike trailers etc. so the most an individual hit would ever take out is a few missile rounds (one in the case of a SAM or MRLS analog).

 

Wheeled drones, perhaps?



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 0452 AM

 

It would be better still the have missiles distributed in individual launchers that lacked any direct fire optics, TI etc. distributed and fibre-optically or perhaps LPI datalink connected. They could also be mounted in very small numbers on pick-up trucks, quad bike trailers etc. so the most an individual hit would ever take out is a few missile rounds (one in the case of a SAM or MRLS analog).

 

Wheeled drones, perhaps?

 

 

Yes. Inexpensive ones.






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